Novi Sad, A golden cage is still a cage.

Besides there is no Albanian movement,party, or serious organization that favors " political coexistance" with the Serbs. You might say it does, but it doesn't. Just look at the history. Almost Half of Serbia's population chose to vote on an ultra-nationalistic party in 2007. Who's leader is in Hague. Milosevic is dead, yet "his" mindset lives on.



Serbia has no moral right over Kosova. The war in Kosova shall never be forgotten!

stop quoting your acedemy of science's fictitious books...quote me vatican, ragusan, byzantine and ottoman archives..you will see...

They were all Albanian Apostolic Churches under the supremacy of Vatican.

Erroneous...I come from an old Albanian family...Our church in the village is over 1600 years old and I am a roman catholic....St Paul and St John preached about the gospel in the 1st century...Albanians are one of the first christians in the world...

and 1200 years ago...that's about the time when you serbs settled in the balkans and you were still pagans and known as brutes - quoting Byzantine writers of that time..

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I don't want to do anything with serbia...a country that has been trying to exterminate Albanians



It offers serbs all the rights within the Republic of Kosova.

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Proud American!

Communism/Socialism is similar to legalizing burglary and murder!

Who knows what time brings. You think that anyone asked Serbs if they were OK with Kosovo proclaiming independence?
Albanians could have never done something like this by themselves. So, I think that it all depends on the interests of the big powers.

This is very funny. You guys proclaim how innocent you are while at the same time flexing your muscles and showing your true colors. I don't think there would be any 'large scale war' unless Russia or United States decided to come in.

Ask Serbia? Why? Any "right" Serbia may have had, it lost in 1999. Serbia has no moral right to claim Kosova.

Alright so it looks like the origional thread idea isn't an option for now with the Serbs.

But now I'm curious about what they actually offered. Was there an actually plan written up somewhere? Link and paraphrase would be good.

A couple specific questions

For one would the Kosovars have their own armed forces of any kind. Or would the area be controlled by Serbs.

Kosovo was fairly autonomous before Milsovic right? But their culture was oppressed and they were driven in horrid unemployment.

What would have been done to address the conditions of the people there after NATO was gone.

AMD mentioned the Kosovars taking "their" minerals. Would the minerals be any less the Albanians under your plan?

What else? Are you guys saying that if they used a Serb flag and didn't bother to have mapmakers redraw the lines you'd be fine with them exactly as they are now? I imagine not. What else is there?

Finally, and I think key to the issue.

Was Serbia willing to admit that what it had done was wrong?

Was Serbia willing to admit that in Milsovics course of action that Yugoslavia needed to be stopped. And direct military action was one of the few things that could stop him?

I can't stress how key this is. There are many legal precidents in the US that you don't mix abusers or generally criminals with those they could harm until they repent for what they had done in the past. Otherwise they have a very high chance of repeating it.


And yes it would come up. From the sounds of things if we had handed Kosovo back to Serbia and NATO left there would have been trouble. Maybe the KLA would show up again. Harvest some Serbian organs and sell them. Who knows. But you would be expected to show the kind of restraint you see from the US in Iraq.

After seeing the clearly corrupted government troops stand aside while the US embassy was burned I imagine that even if official government troops didn't do anything the embassy burning type would come out to say hi to the neighboring Albanians.

i'm just saying...Republic Of KOsova has the right to defend its sovereign territory by all means...

Kosova Army and Air Force is the project...
The military power must be balanced in order to have peace and stability in the Balkans..
But just in case, serbia tries to do something stupid, Belgrade will turn into ruins in the matter of hours..



p.s. russia will not come for you..remember how you were promised in 1999 for help.......and got nothing..

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Jesus beat the devil with two sticks. Colossian 2:13,15

Proud American!

Communism/Socialism is similar to legalizing burglary and murder!

Who are you to say they have no 'right' to their territory? I can't understand how any individual can come out and say something like this. I would completely understand if you said Albanians lead much more intelligent politics than the Serbians and with the help of big powers and their interests, mainly US, Albanians are now indepenent.

He's talking about the ethnic cleansing business (as was I above). Not that the Albanians were lilly white goody two shoes in all this. But the Serbs would be the ones with the power, and you're the ones who escalated it to the point of needed to be bombed. (And bombed quite a bit before you'd lay off on attacking the Albanians I doubt NATO expected you to keep going so long)

O wow. You just keep digging yourself down deeper and deeper. Did Serbia have a right to defend their sovereign territory which was Kosovo? And do you understand why they did not? You truly amaze me with your statements.

As far as Russia goes. You have to understand that Serbia is not united as of yet. How can they ask or expect help from Russians when they are turning away from Russians and toward EU? Streams in Serbia are changing and monumental events like Kosovo independence will hopefully finally let Serbian unite.