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Old 06-15-2008, 07:46 AM
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The image I am presenting is the one that occurred.
You mean, the image that Serbia has been spoon-feeding it's people with.



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No one starts police and military operations for nothing, after living in peace for 50 years. That means something went wrong.
Why don't you ask yourselves what went wrong? Why did Serbia conduct military operations? Why did Macedonia do that? Because Albanians were peaceful citizens that were breeding flowers? Come on, give me a break with that Milosevic's propaganda crap. I can differ right from wrong very easily. Milosevic has been gone for 8 years, but you Albanians expelled more than 200,000 Serbs from Kosovo, desecrated more than 150 Christian monuments and more than 500 Serbs went missing. Do you know where was Milosevic then?

And was there and is there a Milosevic in Macedonia?
You are joking right? Ever since Milosevic came to power Kosova was a police state run by Belgrade.

Human Rights Abuses in the 1990s

Kosovo became a police state run by Belgrade. A strong Serb military presence, justified by the need to fight "Albanian secessionists," committed ongoing human rights abuses. Police violence, arbitrary detentions, and torture were common. Ethnic Albanians were arrested, detained, prosecuted, and imprisoned solely on the basis of their ethnicity, political beliefs, or membership in organizations or institutions that were banned or looked upon with disfavor by the Serbian government.13

Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Albanians were fired from government institutions and state-run enterprises under a series of discriminatory laws. Already in August 1990, the Serbian parliament had abolished the independence of the Kosovo educational system and instituted a new curriculum to be administered centrally from Belgrade. Albanian teachers were forced to sign a loyalty oath; those who refused were dismissed. Throughout 1990, the government closed most of the Albanian-language schools and, in January 1991, it stopped paying most Albanian high school teachers. By October 1991, all Albanian teachers had been fired; only fifteen Albanian professors remained at the university in Pristina, and they all taught in Serbian.

The deliberate economic and social marginalization of ethnic Albanians forced the emigration of an estimated 350,000 Albanians from the province over the next seven years. While Albanians were being forced to leave, Milosevic's government provided incentives and encouraged the settlement of Serbs in the region. In 1996, 16,000 Serb refugees from Bosnia and Croatia were settled in Kosovo, sometimes against their will.


^^^Read for yourself. It's very clear what Milosevic and his Co. had planned.

A Kosova free from the Albanian Kosovars.



As for FYROM, The Albanians wanted the same rights has the FYROM:anians; hence the Ohrid agreement in 2001, that was signed by both parts. If you had known anything about the situation in FYROM, you would have known.

150 churches? Well depends on which Serbian site one looks at, you have everything between 30 to 250 churches being destroyed. I guess it depends which one you choose to believe.
Moreover, Serbs as well, destroyed hundeds of religous buildings in Croatia, Bosnia and in Kosova.


In Kosova;

Our survey database has 268 entries for architectural monuments, representing sites we visited during our fieldwork in October 1999 or for which we have obtained photographs and other documentation from local institutions and individuals that had carried out their own efforts to document the destruction of cultural heritage.


In the small towns and villages of the countryside, traditional residential architecture was also a major target in the recent conflict.Ottoman-era town houses (konak, shtepia) of prominent Albanian familiesand the stone tower-residences (kulla) that are indigenous to this area of the Balkans and typical of Albanian traditional architecture, had clearly been singled out for destruction by Serb forces during the "ethnic cleansing" campaigns of the summer of 1998 and the spring of 1999. Of some 500 kullas in Kosovo, most built during the 18th-19th c. and inhabited by generations of the same families, barely 10 per cent are estimated to have survived the war intact.

As of 1993, there were 607 mosques in Kosovo: 528 congregational mosques (djami) of which 498 were actively used; and 79 smaller mosques (masdjid) of which 70 were actively used. The majority of these mosques date from Ottoman period. According to Herscher and Riedlmayer one-third of the 607 mosques counted in 1993 were destroyed or damaged during the 1998-99 conflict.

As noted above, there were many expressions of concern about the fate of Kosovo's Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries in the international media early in the war. However, Riedlmayer and Herscher found no sign that Serbian Orthodox sites had been damaged during the war. Hmmm, 150 churches eh ????

http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/...riedlmayer.htm
http://www.sacred-sites.org/preservation/kosovo.html

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As noted above, there were many expressions of concern about the fate of Kosovo's Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries in the international media early in the war. However, Riedlmayer and Herscher found no sign that Serbian Orthodox sites had been damaged during the war. Hmmm, 150 churches eh ????
So, no church was destroyed, huh? Albanians respect other religions, huh? Is that what you are trying to tell us?

OK, here we go:



List of destroyed Serbian churches

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So, no church was destroyed, huh? Albanians respect other religions, huh? Is that what you are trying to tell us?

OK, here we go:

" As noted above, there were many expressions of concern about the fate of Kosovo's Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries in the international media early in the war. However, Riedlmayer and Herscher found no sign that Serbian Orthodox sites had been damaged during the war."

I didn't write this, this is all according to Riedlmayer and Herscher, who investigated this!

Kosovo. net? That site is no different than Serbianna, and the other ani-Albanian sites that out there on the net.


As for the Youtube video, that was 2004- the clash that broke out, after 3 Albanian children had died. The feeling of wanting revenge at that time was ompletely normal, even though it was wrong to take out the anger on the house of god.

Moreover, as much as Serbs want to point the finger on others, they have done the same thing, if not worse. During the war in Kosova, Serbs did not only ruin religious buildings, but also historical architecture, museums, libraries and archives- this was done to wipe out the Albanian presence in Kosova.

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http://www.sacred-sites.org/preservation/kosovo.html
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Hey, come on... You are becoming boring. The site has photos and images of every single burned out and desecrated church in Kosovo. Don't make me post them.

Is that a threat te-he-he

I just checked out all the Churches, the majority of them didn't even have pictures, and those that did- well, some of them didn't even look like the same church. And btw, how do we know that these churches weren't from Bosnia or Croatia, or better yet Croatian Christian churches?

How come this Serbian site hasn't posted news links to the churches? And when one looks at the sources ( at the end of the site), you only have Serbian sources/ names ;


Sources

Zaduzbine Kosova -- Spomenici i znamenja srpskog naroda, Eparhija Rasko-prizrenska i Bogoslovski Fakultet u Beogradu, Prizren-Beograd 1987.
Slobodan Nenadovic, Dusanova zaduzbina, Naucno delo, Beograd 1966.
Milka Canak-Medic, Arhitektura nemanjickog doba I i II deo, Republicki zavod za zastitu spomenika Kulture, Beograd, 1989.
Slobodan Mileusnic, Manastiri Kosova i Metohije, Pravoslavlje Pres, Beograd, 1999.
Mirjana Sakota, Riznice manastira u Srbiji, Beograd, 1966.
Gordana Tomovic, "Inscription glagolitique de Cecan", Revue historique, XXXVII, Institut d'historie, Belgrade 1990. pp 19.
Djordje Jankovic, "Ravna Gora between Prizren and Strpce -- The Oldest Known Serbian Archeological Find at the South of Serbia", Antiques of Kosovo and Metohia, Book X, Provincial Institute for Preservation of the Cultural Monuments, Pristina, 1977. pp 36.
Aleksandar Backalov, "The Early Middle Ages", The Archaeological Treasures of Kosovo and Metohija from the Neolithyc to the Early Middle Ages, Galery of Serbian Academy of Sciencis and Arts, 90, Beograd, 1998, pp 372-391, 678-728.
Milan Ivanovic, "Tombstones and Inscriptions at Old Serbian Cemeteries and Church Sites in the Villages of Metohija Podgor and Hvosno", Recueil de Kosovo et Metohija 1, Academie Serbe des Sciences et des Arts, Beograd 1990, pp122.
Sima Cirkovic, "Palais princiers autour de l'ancien lac de Kossovo", Recherches sur l'art, 20, Matica Srpska, Novi Sad 1989.
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