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Old 05-08-2008, 06:24 AM
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Grond, I would like Georgia to try and invade Abhkazia... So that the mighty Russian army could roll in and make some darn big pile of debris.

And I'm going to sit back and enjoy Uncle Sam writing "letters of concern" and not doing anything
why do we have to do anything??? you keep blowing yourself up. hahahaha
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So, try to use it against communists. Just don't forget to write a testament before.



Your old wounds caused by Soviet-made weaponry during Vietnam War still bother you, eh? Soviet-made AK 47 won that war. Betcha, AK47 also will win recent war in Iraq.



Having modern nuclear warheads and its launchers, Ivan would spit upon your "nuke subs". Your boomer subs is an ancient steamers by comparison to Soviet/Russian Akula or Borei type of Heavy Underwater Cruisers. If you wanna have a big sea channel between Mexican and Canadian borders, try to fight us.
Chernobyl: Russia's biggest scientific achievement blows up in Ivans face. go ahead Ivan. tell us all how many died here. did the batteries explode????




yes sir. Russian scientists were at their peak on this one



how many did you murder here Ivan????
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I hope, but some of the arse licking of our American friends seems to fit in the same mould.

You see, accusation, counter accusation is the meat and drink (thankfully its fun) of this medium (I like it rare)

Some Have meat and cannot eat.....

To your last para I bow to your Knowledge, but I still hope
You hope!

I disagree - there is too much venom - for it not to be the real McCoy with this one.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:26 AM
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I do not agree with your definition of "national identity". Most Americans (I would say the vast majority) have been here several generations. That is sufficient time to establish many common experiences.




Is that all you can find? How much of our population is made up of KKK members and their sympathizers?




We are a nation of 300 million. The KKK, according to this source, makes up 1/37,500th of our population. Hardly representative of our culture.



Um...what exactly leads you to believe they have any power at all?




I agree. Our ancestors were still tainted by the ideological pollution of the Europeans that spawned them. It is probably the main reason they were morally inferior to us.

It took us many decades to purge it from our culture. But we finally succeeded.



I never made the claim otherwise. I never made the claim that you should not show them gratitude for their sacrifices. Quite the opposite.




Some aspects of national identity are unworthy of being preserved. Should America have preserved the racist ideals of our forefathers? Slavery was certainly part of the national identity of America at one point. Right?

Of course those ideals were unworthy. So we purged them and replaced them with our own. I am suggesting you do the same thing with the ethnic prejudices in your own country.
Look that happened 200 years ago. I dont blame today’s Americans for that. But do you know with what i have problem? With western films. They were the worst propaganda, that was a master crime against native Americans. And that happened in second half of 20 century. It was washing of bloody hands for crimes against one civilization. It made them look like savages that deserve to die. It made it look like it is there fault for there own destruction.


Look. You have European blood, don’t run away from that. You cant say people were infected by Europe hate and such. That is how life is. You cant throw away your ancestors.
I don’t think that society evolved morally. Today’s moral in world is in lowest point.



About KKK.I think that there are a lot of people that are not enlisted as members, but are ones. And also there are a lot of supporters .Also there is a speculation about NRA that is a cover up for KKK. What makes KKK powerful is not number of members but the power of leaders(in shadow).

ps: National Identity is not ideology. Don’t mix it.
Go to Octobers fest in Munich and you will find your national identity
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Look that happened 200 years ago. I dont blame today’s Americans for that. But do you know with what i have problem? With western films. They were the worst propaganda, that was a master crime against native Americans. And that happened in second half of 20 century. It was washing of bloody hands for crimes against one civilization. It made them look like savages that deserve to die. It made it look like it is there fault for there own destruction.


Look. You have European blood, don’t run away from that. You cant say people were infected by Europe hate and such. That is how life is. You cant throw away your ancestors.
I don’t think that society evolved morally. Today’s moral in world is in lowest point.



About KKK.I think that there are a lot of people that are not enlisted as members, but are ones. And also there are a lot of supporters .Also there is a speculation about NRA that is a cover up for KKK. What makes KKK powerful is not number of members but the power of leaders(in shadow).

ps: National Identity is not ideology. Don’t mix it.
Go to Octobers fest in Munich and you will find your national identity
The NRA is not the KKK i AM a Member of the NRA and GOA THe KKK would not like me as I heard they hate catholics!?
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The NRA is not the KKK i AM a Member of the NRA and GOA THe KKK would not like me as I heard they hate catholics!?
Or Jews,a catholic trait?
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Grond, I would like Georgia to try and invade Abhkazia... So that the mighty Russian army could roll in and make some darn big pile of debris.

And I'm going to sit back and enjoy Uncle Sam writing "letters of concern" and not doing anything
hey, I recently heard many news on a war between Russia and Georgia. is it really that serious?
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hey, I recently heard many news on a war between Russia and Georgia. is it really that serious?
That's true. However, Georgia is not Serbia, and they'll never have the balls to fight Russia or anybody else big and strong.
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That's true. However, Georgia is not Serbia, and they'll never have the balls to fight Russia or anybody else big and strong.

Oh you mean like the "great Serbian retreat" of 1915-16 when Serbia didn't have the balls to fight that they not only ran away - they even left their own Country and fled to Corfu - very brave indeed.....

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Look that happened 200 years ago. I dont blame today’s Americans for that. But do you know with what i have problem? With western films. They were the worst propaganda, that was a master crime against native Americans. And that happened in second half of 20 century. It was washing of bloody hands for crimes against one civilization. It made them look like savages that deserve to die. It made it look like it is there fault for there own destruction.
No argument here. That version of America was morally inferior to modern America.



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Look. You have European blood, don’t run away from that.
Not all of my blood is European. And I don't define myself by blood anyway. I have absolutely no loyalty to any foreigner merely because of common ancestry.

My loyalty is to my nation and it's ideology, not my race.



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You cant say people were infected by Europe hate and such.
I just did. They were polluted with European cultural values, which included racism and conquest. We evolved out of those values the same way the Europeans did. But their origin was in Europe.



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That is how life is. You cant throw away your ancestors.
Who is throwing them away? They have value. They showed us what NOT to do.



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I don’t think that society evolved morally. Today’s moral in world is in lowest point.
Ah...so you think they days of slavery were better than what we have now. Good to know.



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About KKK.I think that there are a lot of people that are not enlisted as members, but are ones.
Well, when you have some evidence other than you personal opinion, let me know.



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And also there are a lot of supporters .Also there is a speculation about NRA that is a cover up for KKK.
Speculation from who? Please post your source.



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What makes KKK powerful is not number of members but the power of leaders(in shadow).
Do you have any actual evidence to support this assumption, or is it merely your own opinion?



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ps: National Identity is not ideology.
I disagree. Ideology is part of national identity.
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