We did not capitulate. We could surrender. But that does not mean much to you.1915 Germany and Austria offered Serbia a deal to change sides. But Serbia refused and was attacked by Germany,Ausstria and Bulgaria.
we retired to Carfu.
If you did not know when Austria failed to defeat Serbia in 1914 it called for Germanys aid.Germans offered peace deal to Serbia witch Serbia stupidly refused. Then Germans offered half of Serbia to Bulgaria if they join in attack. Germans transfer 4 vital corps from west front to aid the German occupation army. Those 4 corps were deployed to Serbia just before battle on river Marne. Do you know how was that important to allies??


Then we fought like mad heroes. we were the only army in the WW1 to brake trough the front line!!!!Regiment "Car Lazar" of the sumandian division of the first Serbian army braked trough Thessaloniki front!!!

You can only weep!!Heroes from the Balkans that is how all the allies called us!The first victory and the last victory of allies was by Serbia.
I have to say that you speak wary god foreign language. Do you know any other foreign language beside English?

Attack with arguments and facts. Not with insults. I have always debated with you peacefully, until you start to insult. That is when i back fire at you. Lets talk calmly and with arguments.

Serbia soldiers in ww1 were heroes. The only reason why our army retreated is because French and English army was to late in aide for Serbia. Bulgarians cut us off from behind. It was the allies that were supposed to advance from Greece and aide us. But they did not. They were late, and we had eater to capitulate or retreat(trough Albania).It is really rude is you say such things abut those people that fought and died.

if you like i will send you a book about defense of Belgrade in 1915.You will see what were heroes. the Germans even build monument in Belgrade in favor of dead Serbian soldier.

Major Dragutin Gavrilovic 1915 Belgrade a speech to soldiers:
Soldiers! Heroes! The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer have to worry for your lives - they do not exist anymore. So, forward to glory! For King and Homeland! Long live the king! Long live Belgrade!"

Few survived and were heavy wounded. Only few survived wounded!!!


ps:What on earth mekes you think that i am a nationlist?

Lunecat, let me just tell you one thing:

A number of 69,000 Serbian soldiers annihilated 700,000 Bulgarian soldiers. This war is lost thanks to you. Disgrace!

This was a letter by German kaiser that was read on the central square of the Bulgarian capital Sofia just after Bulgaria capitulated in 1918.

Say no more.

I am back.

Don’t take things so banally. Even today there are slaves. There are children working 15h a day for 1 dollar. Those children are under 15y.They work in factories of big companies(US,EU)in Asia. drugs, prostitution, racism... Is that bather world? More morally? Today’s world is materially much bather, and because that it should be much much morally bather. But it is not. Mercy , honesty,care for other is what makes people morall. But is are you telling me that the people in this world have time for that?People walk over people for money, for successes in bisnis.

By definition, slaves don't earn wages or have the freedom to make choices.

Underpaying someone does not make them a slave.




Than slavery? You bet your asѕ it is!

Slavery has everything you just described as well. Only worse.



I am pretty sure caring about people and having morality includes not enslaving people...


And people have recourse if they feel they are walked on. They have choices. Real slaves have no choices.

Your position is pure hyperbole. Things were obviously much worse in the past. Slavery is simply the most obvious example.

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Materially not morally.
Slavery was abolished in Europe long before the ones in America. And who owned slaves in US? The rich people off course. We can not know how average people felt about slaves.
People are slaves if they don’t have a choice. And those people and children that for 15 h for 1 dollar have no choice. In modern world rich industrialists that have factories in Asia and Africa are slave owners.
Patriarch society in Serbia in 19 and mid 20 century was much more moral than societies today.

I know what hyperbole is man. I learned it in elementary school!

LOL - you wish!

The Serbian Army ran away in 1915-16 - so using your own Vernacular, they

"never have the balls to fight"

QED - you made a false statement - I proved you wrong - so don't start whining now.

This is too easy - like shooting Serbian rats in a barrel.



Is there no depths to which you will not stoop? To actually "like" to see death and destruction in the Caucasses - You must have some very disturbing mental issues.

I suspect you have never had a loving relationship - how else could you show such blind hatered and a total lack of humanity?

or maybe that is just the Serbian way?

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We can know how slaves felt aboutbeing slaves.

Your assertion was that slaves were better off then than they would be now if they were free. That is what you are saying when you say "The Old times were better".



If they have no choice, why are they being paid at all?



I dont argue that this is wrong and should be stopped. But it is obviously not analogous to slavery.


Not everyone in this forum is as fluent in English as you are. I link to uncommon words as a courtesy to them.


I am guessing that women had fewer rights then than they do now. If so, that makes modern Serbia more moral, not less.

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No it would not. But i only said that the world has not evolved morally. Slavery was not abolished because moral but because economics.

People don’t have choice. The home country made them slaves(Asia),they have to live. The sad thing is it is the same, they pay them so little that it is same or even cheaper than if they feed them(like slaves).And off course no body raises questions if they pay money(even so pathetic)Do you get it? They pay them 1 dollar but they can hardly afford the food.

Answer please