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Why don't all the Kosovars move to Albania and give that small little territory back to Serbia, who really doesn't deserve to have anymore territory taken from it. If certain states in the United states started to declare their independence one by one what do you think we would do?
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Why don't all the Kosovars move to Albania and give that small little territory back to Serbia, who really doesn't deserve to have anymore territory taken from it. If certain states in the United states started to declare their independence one by one what do you think we would do?

You should NEVER compare United States to Kosovo and Serbia because the situation is VERY different, it will have different results.

Instead, why dont you focus on Kosovo and Serbia, and stop using other countires as an excuse.

Doesnt deserve? What did Kosovars deserve? Death? And Serbians deserved land? How pathetic.
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You should NEVER compare United States to Kosovo and Serbia because the situation is VERY different, it will have different results.

Instead, why dont you focus on Kosovo and Serbia, and stop using other countires as an excuse.

Doesnt deserve? What did Kosovars deserve? Death? And Serbians deserved land? How pathetic.
You cannot deny that the two scenarios are somewhat the same, if not exactly. A group of people declares independence from their government and takes the land they occupy. I don't see how dissimilar this would be for other countries as well.

I'm not exactly sure where I said that Kosovars deserve death, but they did take the land from the government of Serbia.
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You cannot deny that the two scenarios are somewhat the same, if not exactly. A group of people declares independence from their government and takes the land they occupy. I don't see how dissimilar this would be for other countries as well.

I'm not exactly sure where I said that Kosovars deserve death, but they did take the land from the government of Serbia.
You dont have to say that Kosovars deserve death---it was and is obvious from what Serbians did or think. Nor did I ever imply that you said they deserved death.

They are not the same, not even a little. US is a melting pot. It is not black or white. It's a mix of people from all over the world. You think one state will declare independance from another state? On what grounds exactly?
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You dont have to say that Kosovars deserve death---it was and is obvious from what Serbians did or think. Nor did I ever imply that you said they deserved death.

They are not the same, not even a little. US is a melting pot. It is not black or white. It's a mix of people from all over the world. You think one state will declare independance from another state? On what grounds exactly?
California could on the basis that it wants to pursue a greater degree of dictatorial, socialist government that would be incompatible with our constitution and would represent a form of government alien to that which the government was founded on. They could also be taken over by 20 million illegal immigrants from Mexico. Or they could decide that they want no part of Bush's imperialistic tyrannical government. Plenty of other places in the US have an ethnic majority that is non-white and is not a melting pot. It doesn't even have to be an entire state, it could be a much smaller region.
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To even come close to comparing the U.S.A to Kosovo and Serbia, you would have to assume somthing like the following:

Some people in the States feel a deep hatred towards Texans, so they invade Texas and attempt to slaughter the population there. Many Texans are forced to flee to Mexico, where they reside in refugee camps. The U.N. intervenes and halts the war, whereupon the Texans go back to their homes. A lot of them are angry over what has been done to them, and some take it out on Americans from other states still living in Texas. NATO attempts to control the situation by sending troops there, and controlling the government. Then, after a few years, the Texans declare independence from the U.S.A.

Would this independence be uncalled for? Would it be an act of injustice against the U.S.A? Obviously many of the other Americans wouldn't be to blame for the genocide, and some would undoubtedly try to hold onto what was U.S. land. But would you still go as far as to say that they are wrong to "declare independence from their government and take the land they occupy"?

EDIT: I see you already posted something 1 minute before me. This is in response to your other posts, not that one. Just to clear things up.
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We in the US have had our own independence movement before, and it consisted of about half the states. They all formed another government and declared themselves independent from the rest of the country. They supported the mistreatment of a group of people on ethnic grounds. It was wrong of them to declare independence, and it would have been wrong for the Northern states to declare independence from the Southern states on this basis. Law and order should rule. Kosovo should definitely have its own police force that would prevent the so called "some people who feel great hatred towards Texans" from coming and killing them. However, it should not be its own country. The divisiveness that it has caused has destabilized the region, which is not good for anybody.
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California could on the basis that it wants to pursue a greater degree of dictatorial, socialist government that would be incompatible with our constitution and would represent a form of government alien to that which the government was founded on. They could also be taken over by 20 million illegal immigrants from Mexico. Or they could decide that they want no part of Bush's imperialistic tyrannical government. Plenty of other places in the US have an ethnic majority that is non-white and is not a melting pot. It doesn't even have to be an entire state, it could be a much smaller region.
You simply cannot use USA as an excuse! Period! It's a WHOLE different environment!
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You simply cannot use USA as an excuse! Period! It's a WHOLE different environment!
Do you know why it's different? Because you were Turkish, NAZI and Stalin's allies, committed numerous crimes against Serbs, Greeks, Jews and others, populated illegally Serbian, Greek, Montenegrin and Macedonian territories and pretended to be victims and desired secession since the 1960s, when no one oppressed you and Yugoslav government gave you everything: a shelter from your tyrannical leader Enver Hoxa, money, bread, jobs, social and health security!
The entire socialist Yugoslavia payed taxes and gave subventions for you Albanians and yet you wanted independence! For Christ sake! Independence! You moved into somebody else's house and you want to (*)(*)(*)(*) all over the host's hospitality and claim that house to be yours, then pretend to be victimized, bribe politicians all over the world by your dirty heroin and organ trafficking money and call upon military intervention against Serbia! And still desperately try to sell crap here!

Well, no more!

You are ungrateful liars and thieves!

Kosovo is Serbia, and will be brought back to Serbia one day and there is not a darn single thing you will do to stop that process of reintegration.
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And this is what the Greeks have to say about you Albanians, ungrateful thieves, liars and history inventors:


One more hand that fed you was Uncle Sam's hand, and you generously repaid them by trying to blow up their structures and soldiers in the Fort Dix operation.
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