Serbian thread

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by xDonnax

According to whom- you? Kosova remained as an occupied territory until ~1918 - then it was incorporated into a Yugoslav state, not a Serbian one.


Really? I thought Serbia was all about human rights, respecting international laws and democracy?

Kosovo was an autonomous province in Turkish empire until Serbs liberated their historical land after sending the Turks back to Asia.

Kosovo NEVER, and I repeat - NEVER had nothing to do with Albania or Albanian structures of power and state. It was always Serbian, hundreds of monuments all over Kosovo prove Serbian historical existence there. You thieves populated Kosovo in the 20th century, coming down from mountain clans, and brought dark ages to the area.

[NOTE FROM CATZ:

I'm going to edit this for you to help you understand better]

We should have never let ALBANIANS in. ALBANIANS were supposed to be shot while trying to cross the border after WW2.

[Do you see what I did here, ATD? I replaced "you" with Kosovars so that it refocused back to the POLITICAL DISCUSSION and away from individual posters. You need to be very careful who your remarks are directed to. Do you understand? That will help you avoid personal insults while still making your point.]

[xDonnax]

The substance in those comments itself speaks of all the hatred that the Serbian/Slavic orthodox fanatics and fundamentalists have been brewing for centuries.

This is not 13th century. Both the Albanians and the Serbs can make historical claims, but the reality has its own language. It shouldn't matter what any of us were two thousand or even two hundred years ago - Kosova is over 90% Albanian and they have been discriminated against, excluded, and finally ethnically cleansed (attempted) by your Government, which takes away any right you might have had to claim it as your territory.

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by xDonnax

The substance in those comments itself speaks of all the hatred that the Serbian/Slavic orthodox fanatics and fundamentalists have been brewing for centuries.

This is not 13th century. Both the Albanians and the Serbs can make historical claims, but the reality has its own language. It shouldn't matter what any of us were two thousand or even two hundred years ago - Kosova is over 90% Albanian and they have been discriminated against, excluded, and finally ethnically cleansed (attempted) by your Government, which takes away any right you might have had to claim it as your territory.

This is not dark ages. Collective responsibility does not exist any more. Those who attempted ethnic cleansing and who are personally responsible are dead or in jails.

*ALBANIAN* criminals are in power. In order to claim the territory, *ALBANIA* made sure the remaining Serbs were out of it, so *ALBANIA* expelled them in front of the eyes of the international community.

These acts take away *ALBANIA'S* newly born right.

Kosovo is Serbia!

[xDonnax]

So, instead of ponting the finger at everyone else for *SERBIA'S* "misfortune", *SERBIANS* should be looking at THEMselves and the leaders THEY chose- as THEY have noone else to blame but *THEMSELVES.* The world doesn't revolve around Serbia.

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by xDonnax

So, instead of ponting the finger at everyone else around you for your own "misfortune", you should be looking at yourselves and the leaders you chose- as you have noone else to blame but yourself. The world doesn't revolve around Serbia.

Responsibility is huge upon Serbian dictator Milosevic. That is true. But ALBANIA showed the same temper and same agendas even after Milosevic was stripped off of his power.

That's why ALBANIANS lose credibility. It wasn't about Milosevic. ALBANIANS were doing the identical thing there since the 60's.

There is no Milosevic in Macedonia, yet it it is full of Albanian terrorists claiming independence.

That is who you really are.

[xDonnax]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

Responsibility is huge upon Serbian dictator Milosevic. That is true. But you showed the same temper and same agendas even after Milosevic was stripped off of his power.

That's why you lose credibility. It wasn't about Milosevic. You were doing the identical thing there since the 60's.

There is no Milosevic in Macedonia, yet it it is full of Albanian terrorists claiming independence.

That is who you really are.

Just like the Albanians in Kosova were denied their rights ( the right to exist freely of oppression, the right to carry on cultural heritage, etc - hence the demonstrations the followed during the late 60's); The FYROM Government kept denying the rights of the Albanians in FYROM- hence the clash in 2001. Which was later followed by the Ohrid Agreement- signed by both parts.



As for Milosevic, of course, he bears the greatest blame, but such is the tale of the Kurban.


Milosevic was a Serbian product, as was Rankovic, as is Seselj and Kustonica.

They do not support "Serbia", they support "Serbian Nationalism"- that issue goes back far further into history than Milosevic or Kustonica. It's a legacy that goes back at least to Ilia Garasanin, if not even further.

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

Kosovo was an autonomous province in Turkish empire until Serbs liberated their historical land after sending the Turks back to Asia.

Kosovo NEVER, and I repeat - NEVER had nothing to do with Albania or Albanian structures of power and state. It was always Serbian, hundreds of monuments all over Kosovo prove Serbian historical existence there. You thieves populated Kosovo in the 20th century, coming down from mountain clans, and brought dark ages to the area.

[NOTE FROM CATZ:

I'm going to edit this for you to help you understand better]

We should have never let KOSOVARS in. KOSOVARS were supposed to be shot while trying to cross the border after WW2.

[Do you see what I did here, ATD? I replaced "you" with Kosovars so that it refocused back to the POLITICAL DISCUSSION and away from individual posters. You need to be very careful who your remarks are directed to. Do you understand? That will help you avoid personal insults while still making your point.]

They were not Kosovars. They were Albanians from Albania who illegally crossed the border. I can't refer to them as Kosovars. You don't get it.

I understand your point

[catzmeow]

ARRRGGGHHHHHHHH.

WHAT. EVER. I have fixed it. Please forgive my poor American geography skills.

Now, can we play nicely and discuss like big people?

[xDonnax]

They were not Kosovars. They were Albanians from Albania who illegally crossed the border. I can't refer to them as Kosovars.

Do you have any reliable documents or sources to back up your claim?

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by xDonnax

Do you have any reliable documents or sources to back up your claim?

Sure. Go to Belgrade's National library, or open UDBA's and military reports from that period and you'll find plenty of evidence. Or use google. It's easier.