Serbian thread

[TrueAlbo2006]

Originally Posted by catzmeow

Ethnic cleansing refers to genocide. Did the Albanians kill 250,000 Serbs? Were they forcibly displaced? OR, did they voluntarily leave as a result of the ongoing hostilities? You know people often flee from war zones, not because they are forced, but to protect their families and belongings.

lol..catz, there were never more than 85,000 serbs living in Kosovo, and thats a very exaggerated one. If there were 250,000, than Kosovo would have 2.75 million people in 1999.

ATD has posted opinions from bloggers, serbian fabricated story but failed to find a legitimate one. but never facts. Most of them left voluntarily.

Human Rights Watch recognizes only 23, 000 serbs.

[xDonnax]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

This is what happened in Kosovo in 2004, under international community and NATO "protection":

And do you know the main cause of the clash that broke out in March 2004?



It's easy to point the finger on someone else when one looks past their own wrong doings, which are tenfold.

*Attacking Embassies
* Attacking Macdonalds and other internationally known names,
* Attacking the UNMIK Court building in Mitrovica
* Attacking the UN police with molotov cocktails, guns, grenades -

This leading to tens of UN police men being injured, and one UN police getting killed.


All this happened less than 3 months ago- By the Serbs

YouTube - Kosovo Riots 08

YouTube - helicopter view of the riots

Is this how Serbia "defends" the Western values eh

[catzmeow]

ATD:

I watched both videos, but as a westerner who only speaks English, they were difficult for me to determine exactly what you wanted to see. I saw a church being destroyed. Given the amount of NATO forces, who were there primarily to prevent loss of life, I am not surprised that happened.

The other one, there is no way to know how accurate the information is because it was compiled by I don't know who, and they clearly had an agenda. Can you post something a bit more mainstream?

I understand your frustrations, but it's hard to communicate across some language barriers.

[catzmeow]

All this happened less than 3 months ago- By the Serbs

(*)(*)(*)(*), the UN got owned.

HOw are the UN forces viewed in Serbia, Albania and Kosovo?

Donna, the same thing as what I said to ATD, though. This does not have any reporting in order that a westerner could understand what happened, or why. Do you have mainstream coverage of it?

[xDonnax]

The peacekeeping forces are needed down there for now.

Here you go Catz;

Kosovo riots 'were orchestrated'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7303792.stm

Ukrainian UN police officer dies after Kosovo riots
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7300015.stm

Embassies being attacked in Belgrade
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...nce/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7256158.stm


Serbs attack U.N. convoy in Kosovo flare-up
http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/20080...voy-kosovo.htm
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...Cr=kosovo&Cr1=


Kosovo border checkpoint burned down
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...dependence.php

[xDonnax]

The Clash that broke out on 17 March 2008 was also the anniversary of the clash that was four years ago ( 17 March 2004). It was due to the deaths of 3 Albanian children, that a clach broke out in March 2004.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/wo.../18kosovo.html
http://www.unmikonline.org/archives/news06_04full.htm

[AmusedToDeath]

Yes, but Serbs had nothing to do with those deaths... It was orchestrated by the Albanian authorities to expel the remaining Serbian population from Kosovo.

[xDonnax]

Orchestrated, in order to expel people? Got a reliable source to support your claim?

[AmusedToDeath]

Originally Posted by xDonnax

Orchestrated, in order to expel people? Got a reliable source to support your claim?

It is so evident... It's impossible for such an enormous angry mob of Albanians all over Kosovo to be organized by itself. It was prepared before, as a signal to both the Serbs and NATO what would happen in Kosovo if Serbia regained its dominance.

[xDonnax]

Originally Posted by AmusedToDeath

It is so evident... It's impossible for such an enormous angry mob of Albanians all over Kosovo to be organized by itself. It was prepared before, as a signal to both the Serbs and NATO what would happen in Kosovo if Serbia regained its dominance.

Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

Like I said, if you are going to make claims as such, the least you can do is post evidence to your claim.