It isnt an insult if it is true. Not all people consider the "fascist" label an insult. Thats why Catzmeow was asking TrueAlbo2006 to clarify his position.

Do you have a link to their political platform?

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I do, but it's in Serbian I can't find one in English

Can you summarize it for us?

What is the actual party name? Maybe I can find something.

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The party's name is Serbian radical party.

Their leader (or former leader) Vojsilav Seselj is in Hague now. He is a madman that I get disgusted by every time I hear his name or hear him speak.

The party started to grow rapidly after their leader went to Hague, and after the new leader Tomislav Nikolic "switched the record" from nationalism to economy and social justice.

Those 2 are their main winning arguments, due to many irregularities in the process of privatization in Serbia, after Milosevic lost the elections in 2000.

Their program does include Greater Serbia, but war is not an option any more, not even for them. They started getting more and more votes after they pacified their story.

I did find a wikipedia link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Radical_Party -

It seems consistent with your summary.

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Serb Radical Party is an ultra Nationalist-Socialist party (NAZI derives from this very word), their program is purely fascist. Here is a link from Brittanicca:

Fascist:

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a


neofascism
..), SRS, the military campaigns against Croats and Bosnians in Croatia and Bosnia were undertaken in part to bolster Milosevic's image as a staunch nationalist and to consolidate his power at the expense of Vojislav Seselj's Serbian Radical Party (Srpska Radikalna Stranka; SRS), then the largest neofascist party in Serbia.

In the parliamentary elections taking place today in Serbia, the neo-Nazi Serbian Radical Party looks set to win the largest number of votes, as indeed it did in the last parliamentary elections in 2007.


Greater Serbia:

Proponents of the goal of Greater Serbia do not insist on an ethnically clean Serbia. Indeed, 35% of the population of Serbia is non-Serb. Rather, they assert that Greater Serbia could have minorities, as well as that there still might remain Serb minorities in surrounding countries. Opponents of the goal claim that, in practice, the treatment of national minorities in the Serbian provinces during the 1980s and 1990s shows that the Greater Serbian goal equates to ethnic supremacism. In Kosovo, the conflict with the Albanians led to the Kosovo War. As a matter of fact Roma, Gorani, and other stateless minorities had aligned themselves with the idea of Greater Serbia because it is the most coherent with their cause. In Vojvodina, the radical nationalists (such as Vojislav Šešelj of the Serbian Radical Party) used to terrorize the minority populations[citation needed], but in general the situation did not lead to armed conflict.

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War in Bosnia:

Seselj neofascist ideology honoured the Chetniks by naming his own militia after them. Seselj’s Chetniks murdered and raped their way across East Bosnia in 1992, under the command of Slobodan Milosevic’s Yugoslav People’s Army.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6296601.stm

The Radicals believe in a Greater Serbia, although they don't say how they would keep Kosovo, let alone get Croatia back. Their rallies abound with men with shaven heads, sporting a variety of military headgear and belting out nationalist songs with great gusto.




Helsinki Committee for Human Rights in Serbia:
http://www.helsinki.org.yu/tjseselj.html


The International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia: The Prosecutor v. Vojislav Seselj

THE IDEOLOGY OF A GREATER SERBIA IN THE NINETEENTH AND TWENTIETH CENTURIES

22 January 2008

Expert Report, Yves Tomic

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Excerpts from the Hague Court:

VOJISLAV SESELJ - DAY 4: GREATER SERBIA
www.slobodan-milosevic.org - August 25, 2005

The trial of Slobodan Milosevic has been going on for three and a half years now, and the judges still can not understand what the prosecution case is.

Mr. Nice admitted today that Slobodan Milosevic never espoused or advocated the idea of "Greater Serbia." This admission from the prosecution came as a shock to everybody, including the judges, who have been laboring under the false impression that Milosevic is accused of masterminding a conspiracy to create Greater Serbia.

Judge Robinson pointed out that the Kosovo, Bosnia and Croatia indictments were only joined because there was a belief that those wars were all provoked by Milosevic's alleged conspiracy to create "Greater Serbia."

The conspiracy, or as the indictment calls it the "joint criminal enterprise," that Mr. Nice now alleges is much more of a vague concept. According to Mr. Nice, Milosevic did not want greater Serbia -- he only wanted all Serbs to remain living together in one state, which they did for 70 years in Yugoslavia.

Mr. Nice says that Milosevic's secret master plan was never fully articulated and that it changed depending on the circumstances. Apparently Mr. Nice does not understand what a plan is; obviously if it isn't articulated and it changes, then it isn't a plan.

Mr. Nice spent more than an hour trying to explain to the judges what his case was, and what the purpose of Milosevic's alleged conspiracy was. Apparently the conspiracy was aimed at preserving Yugoslavia and if that couldn't be accomplished then keeping the Serbian people together in a single state was a sort of plan B. If this is what Milosevic is now accused of then it isn't anything wrong.

The constitution of Yugoslavia guaranteed the Yugoslav nations the right to self determination. This means that the six Yugoslav peoples (Serbs, Croats, Muslims, Macedonians, Montenegrins and Slovenians) had the right to leave Yugoslavia and establish their own states.

The Socialist Yugoslav republics (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Macedonia) did not have the right to secede because the Socialist Yugoslav republics did not belong to the individual Yugoslav peoples. For example, Bosnia was defined by its constitution as an equal state of Serbs, Croats and Muslims and Croatia was a state of Croats and Serbs.

Article 5 of the Yugoslav constitution regulated the state borders and it clearly stipulated that the borders could not be changed unless all of the republics and autonomous provinces agreed to the changes. This means that nobody could leave the federation unless everybody in the country was in agreement.

The only way for one of the Yugoslav peoples to exercise their right to self-determination and secede from the country would be to change the republican borders in the manner prescribed by Article 5 of the constitution and then to secede. Obviously the Muslims couldn't legally exercise their right to self determination by turning Bosnia into an independent country because Bosnia wasn't theirs to take as it legally belonged to all three peoples.

If, as the prosecution alleges, Milosevic had a plan to have all Serbs live in one state, and if that plan meant that parts of the Socialist Republic of Croatia and parts of the Socialist Republic of Bosnia were to become part of a new Serbian state, then there is nothing illegal about that. Serbs were constituent peoples in Bosnia and Croatia and they had a constitutional right to secession.

Even though it would have been perfectly legal and proper for Milosevic to have pursued a unified Serbian state, he didn't do that. He supported the Vance Plan, and the Z-4 Plan in Croatia. He supported the Lisbon Agreement, the Vance-Owen Plan, the Owen-Stoltenberg Plan, the EU Action Plan, and he signed the Dayton Accords for Bosnia. All of those plans, which Milosevic supported from the very beginning, made a unified Serbian state impossible.

Milosevic even supported the Belgrade Initiative which was intended to prevent Bosnia's secession by making Alija Izetbegovic the President of Yugoslavia. Serbia certainly could not have expanded its borders with Alija Izetbegovic as the federal president. Seselj said that Izetbegovic lost interest in this agreement after the Americans told him that he could have Bosnia all to himself.

Furthermore, when the FR Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) promulgated its constitution in 1992, it stated unequivocally that it had no territorial pretensions on any of the former Socialist Yugoslav Republics. Milosevic, neither in words nor deeds, pursued a unified Serbian state. In fact there are some Serbs who criticize Milosevic because they believe that his actions destroyed any hope of a unified Serbian state, which they feel has put the Serbian people in a weak position.

Vojislav Seselj gave in-depth testimony today about what "Greater Serbia" means. He said that Croats and Muslims are ethnically the same as Serbs. He said that the only difference is that Croats are Catholic and that Muslims are of the Islamic faith. He said that the Vatican encouraged Catholic Serbs to consider themselves a separate ethnicity from the Orthodox Serbs and this is how the Croats came in to being, and he said that the Ottoman Empire did the same with the Serbian Muslims.

Dr. Seselj explained that "Greater Serbia" means that Muslim-Serbs (meaning Muslims), Catholic-Serbs (meaning Croats), and Orthodox-Serbs (meaning Serbs) should all form a unified state. This would mean that the Serbian state would cover the entire area where the Serbian language is spoken, meaning that Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia, and Croatia would all become part of Greater-Serbia.

Seselj said that the Serbian Radical Party is, and always has been, the only party in Serbia that advocates Greater Serbia. He said that Milosevic's Socialist Party of Serbia never favored the idea of Greater-Serbia.

The indictment against Milosevic is easily the dumbest thing ever written. According to the indictment, Milosevic and Seselj were both participants in the alleged conspiracy since 1991. Seselj said that he was amazed that he could be in a conspiracy with Milosevic in 1991 because the two of them had never even met each other until 1992.

Milosevic read out the names of several people held by the indictment to be co-conspirators in the so-called "joint criminal enterprise." Seselj, who is listed as a member himself, said that many of the people listed by the indictment were his political opponents and he accused some of them of being outright criminals. Seselj said that many of the alleged co-conspirators were Milosevic's opponents too. He gave the example of Milan Babic, who violently clashed with Milosevic over the adoption of the Vance Plan under which the Krajina Serbs handed their weapons over to the UN in exchange for the promise of UN protection. Protection, which Seselj pointed out, never came.

The indictment's logic is deeply flawed. Mr. Nice's thesis that Milosevic had a criminal conspiracy to create an enlarged unified Serbia if Yugoslavia fell apart is ludicrous. The initial Kosovo indictment admits that the secession of Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia is what set off the wars in the former Yugoslavia. How could Milosevic have masterminded a conspiracy that depended a war being started by somebody else? The whole idea is stupid.

Milosevic noted with great pleasure today that "not everybody who watches this trial is an idiot." He said that law students will study this trial at universities and that Mr. Nice will find himself the target of criminal prosecution.

The trial is scheduled to resume next Tuesday.

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Seselj is a madman. But he stands trial now. And he is not in power. Unlike Kosovo, currently governed by war criminals like Thaci, Haradinaj and Cheku.

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/neo-fascism/en-en/
Neo-fascism is the ideology of political movements that emerged after the Second World War that display significant elements of fascism. The term neo-fascist may be claimed by groups that express a specific admiration for Benito Mussolini and Fascist Italy. This usually includes nationalism, nativism, anti-communism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, in particular if the term is used as a hyperbolic political attack that uses the term fascism as a politic epithet. George Orwell once remarked that the word fascism no longer seemed to mean much of anything, other than objectionable (See Godwin's Law).
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Organizations that have self-described themselves as 'neo-fascist,' or are categorized as such in scholarly studies or media reports include:

* American Nazi Party - United States
* Australia First Party - Australia
* Bolivian Socialist Falange - Bolivia
* Croatian Party of Rights - Croatia
* España 2000 - Spain
* Hrisi Avgi - Greece
* Proti Grammi - Greece
* Patriotiki Symmachia - Greece
* Great Romania Party - Romania
* Guatemalan Republican Front - Guatemala
* Heritage Front - Canada
* Imperium europa - Malta
* Kataeb - Lebanon
* Mouvement National Républicain - France
* National Action - Australia
* National Democratic Party - Germany
* Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) and Grey Wolves - Turkey
* National Power Unity - Latvia
* National Rebirth of Poland - Poland
* National Socialist Iranian Workers' Party (SUMKA) - Iran
* National Socialist Japanese Workers and Welfare Party
* New Zealand National Front - New Zealand
* Noua Dreaptă "New Right" - Romania
* One Nation - Australia
* Partido Demócrata Mexicano - Mexico
* Partido Nacional Renovador - Portugal
* Patriotic Youth League - Australia
* Russian National Unity - Russia
* Serbian Radical Party - Serbia
* Syrian Social Nationalist Party - Syria and Lebanon
* Unity Party of Canada - Canada (no longer exists)
* Vlaams Belang
* Avanguardia Nazionale - Italy
* Movimento Sociale Italiano- Italy
* Alternativa Sociale - Italy
* Fascism and Freedom Movement - Italy
* Forza Nuova - Italy
* Fiamma Tricolore - Italy
* Ordine Nuovo - Italy
* Hrisi Avgi - Greece
* Patriotiki Symmachia - Greece
* Proti Grammi - Greece
* National Political Union - Greece

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Discrimination against lesbians and gays in Serbia

http://www.labris.org.yu/en/index.ph...=136&Itemid=48


This action was covered in the media. Tomislav Nikolic, the vice-president of the Serbian Radical Party

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