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Old 06-06-2008, 12:50 PM
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Attempted it is... Since there are no Serbian terrorists, nor did such a category ever exist.
You never fail to bring a smile to my face. Yet, I cant seem to figure out whether it is out of pure sarcasm you oh so greatly ooze.

I would greatly appreciate it, though, if you stared at the bold sentence for a few minutes and TRY to start laughing. It's worth a try! Go ahead! It feels great!
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First of all, a country with its own police and military forces does not conduct acts of terrorism against itself. That would be ridiculous. The one and only act of terrorism committed by a Serb was the assassination of Austrian archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914. But that had nothing to do with the state of Serbia, since it was an attack planned and conducted by a secret organization.
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I think that in this case, the radicals in Serbia occasionally control the military and police force. And the radicals in Albania use terrorism against the Serb military, as seen with the KLA etc. If Serbia had no army it would probably have a militia of radicals, and if Albanians had a military it would be called a war, perhaps.

The conflict just a matter of definition - the methods are different, but people die on both sides just the same.
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I believe you are the one to tell what rights are denied to the Albanian minority in Macedonia, and if that denial is so intense to cause violence and terrorism.

Macedonians are going to make the same mistake Serbs made. You really can't be democratic with Albanians because no matter what you give them they will want more. I remember when Mexicans in California demostrated peacefully because of the US immigration laws. Police came in and not so 'gently' removed them from the streets. It was all over CNN. Correct me if I am mistaken but I have not seen large gatherings of people fed up with immigration laws since then.
Macedonians not only should do the same thing, but they are obliged to the the same thing for the safety of their people and unity of their country.
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You really can't be democratic with Albanians because no matter what you give them they will want more.
What exactly have we been given? What? Education? A home? Freedom? The right to speak whatever you have been longing to speak? The right to fair treatment? Going to sleep feeling safe? Not take a night trail walking to another country just for the heck of the adventure and not because you were forced to?

And yet you still say we want more? More of WHAT?!?!!?
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What exactly have we been given? What? Education? A home? Freedom? The right to speak whatever you have been longing to speak? The right to fair treatment? Going to sleep feeling safe? Not take a night trail walking to another country just for the heck of the adventure and not because you were forced to?

And yet you still say we want more? More of WHAT?!?!!?
We? You live in Macedonia? They have all of those and can do whatever Macedonians can. If they did not have a right to speak or government was so tough on them they would be scared to even protest or have guns. It is actually quite opposite. Dream of greater Albania is what motivates them.
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I think that in this case, the radicals in Serbia occasionally control the military and police force. And the radicals in Albania use terrorism against the Serb military, as seen with the KLA etc. If Serbia had no army it would probably have a militia of radicals, and if Albanians had a military it would be called a war, perhaps.

The conflict just a matter of definition - the methods are different, but people die on both sides just the same.
Radicals or patriots. They love their country just like people of any other country love theirs. Any country will use their military to protect their land. That is why that army is there. Albanians would never be able to (temporary) take Kosovo if US was not backing them.
One thing that has to be remembered though is that these great powers like Russia, China and US have their bigger goals that they want to achieve and Kosovo is just part of the puzzle. Their directions can change just as easy if something else of more value comes along the way.
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You can't convince me that people of US have more love for Albanians then for Macedonians or Serbians. Most people, and I am talking about at least 85 % Americans, don't even know where Serbia or Albania is. You can't convince me that taking somebody's land, in this day and age, is moral, legal, or just. You can't convince me that since Albanians are majority in kosovo that is the sole reason for getting their independence simply because you would have to convince me that Chechenya, Tibet, Ireland or most recently Republic of Srpska should also get their independence as well.
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