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Well, perhaps you don't care but many people (including myself) do care. My grandparents gave their lives to defend that territory. What should I give it to someone?
I don't care about the past. Kosovo is 90% Albanian. Why on earth do they want to be ruled by Serbians?
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I don't care about the past. Kosovo is 90% Albanian. Why on earth do they want to be ruled by Serbians?
We don't want to rule them. Let them rule themselves. All we want is this country to be called Serbia (as it always has been) and to protect our shrines and our symbols of existence that they want to erase.
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Why don't you give Texas to Mexicans, huh?
If you want to fight the Albanians to get Kosovo back, by all means, go ahead. Otherwise, your claims of legality are useless.
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If you want to fight the Albanians to get Kosovo back, by all means, go ahead. Otherwise, your claims of legality are useless.
Perhaps they are useless at this point in time.

But if you believe USA is going to be ever-almighty, you are fooling yourselves. For times WILL come when law, reason and justice will prevail this selfish imperialism of a single nation.
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Perhaps they are useless at this point in time.

But if you believe USA is going to be ever-almighty, you are fooling yourselves. For times WILL come when law, reason and justice will prevail this selfish imperialism of a single nation.
So you are going to make sure you remember this for generations? If Kosovo is the Serbian Jerusalem, I suggest you learn from history and make peace now.
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We don't want to rule them. Let them rule themselves. All we want is this country to be called Serbia (as it always has been) and to protect our shrines and our symbols of existence that they want to erase.
Them let them rule themselves as an independent nation. So-called autonomous rule for a people within a nation is nonsense.

A friendly split coupled with trade and cultural exchanges would've gone a long way toward peaceful relations and the hope for preservation of some of those icons.

As it stands now, you can pretty much kiss that goodbye.
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Now all of you Yankees be honest for once and tell me if this is the democracy you want to fight for? You gave this piece of land to notorious criminals and mafia kingpins (Thaci, Haradinaj, Cheku and others) and now you try to sell everyone crap about a multiethnic society of Kosovo and some kind of democracy?

If democracy means freedom, does it mean freedom to kidnap 300 Serbian civilians and to cut up their bodies and take out their organs in order to sell them on some colonial bazaar?
AmusedToDeath, the world now understands what America is really all about.
I used to think that the country which was founded (as we are told) on principals of freedom and democracy will be true to freedom and democracy. In reality, however, all American Empire cares is money, money, money....

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America has a history of supporting illegally elected governments and dictatorships. Its all about the interest of America. For example, at one point it was America interest to fund the evil nation of Afghanistan to defend themselves from Russia. It was also our interest to establish relationship with and fund Saddam at one point. Its our interest now to maintain good relations with the King of Saudi. Looking at Georgia, American interest there should be pretty obvious...Russia.

So lets realize that America supports those who they will benefit from. Rather that be resources, strategic opportunity, or simply pressure. I am pretty sure that close ties between Georgia and US puts a hell of a lot of pressure on Russia. Imagine if US allied with all former Soviet states, that is a ton of pressure in my opinion. Its not like America has decided to support Georgia because they believe in dictatorship and evil, its because its in the best interest of our nations for one reason or another. Although there seem to always be blow back, it has worked for the past 50 years. Like they say, If its not broke, don't fix it.
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So you are going to make sure you remember this for generations? If Kosovo is the Serbian Jerusalem, I suggest you learn from history and make peace now.
I never questioned peace. Peace and safety are top priorities. I'm pointing out the significance of creating precedents like this one, and also the importance of upholding the international law and the very principles of UN that kept this planet from not sliding into another world conflict. If you believe those things should be neglected in order to achieve one nation's military and economic interests, then you've learned nothing from history.
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I never questioned peace. Peace and safety are top priorities. I'm pointing out the significance of creating precedents like this one, and also the importance of upholding the international law and the very principles of UN that kept this planet from not sliding into another world conflict. If you believe those things should be neglected in order to achieve one nation's military and economic interests, then you've learned nothing from history.
Kosovo will only destabilize the region (The WORLD!) as much as you want it to.
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AmusedToDeath, the world now understands what America is really all about.
I used to think that the country which was founded (as we are told) on principals of freedom and democracy will be true to freedom and democracy. In reality, however, all American Empire cares is money, money, money....

America cannot be trusted anymore.... Here's an opinion of one honest Yank:


Российский брат, I know that very well. America lost credibility long time ago. All they can use in relations with foreign countries now is brute force. Which they have been using since the loss of world balance (after the breakup of USSR).
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