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Arrow Why does America support the dictatorship in Georgia?

Can anyone tell me what's going on here? Why does America support that monster Mikhail Saakashvili?



Tbilisi - Georgia - EuroNews -
The US-sponsored dictatorship regime of Saakashvili crash opposition protest:



George W. Bush and Mikhail Saakashvili.


On the orders of the fascist, USA-sponsored regime of Mikheil Saakashvili police storm opposition TV station in Tbilisi (capital of Georgia):






Tbilisi (in Georgian: თბილისი), is the capital and the largest city of Georgia, lying on the banks of the Mtkvari (Kura) River. From an early Georgian form Tpilisi derived both Armenian Teplis and Greek Tiflis, and the latter form was borrowed by Russian, so that until 1936 its official name in Russian was Тифлис (Tiflis) and until recently it was frequently referred to as Tiflis by non-Georgians. The city covers an area of 726 km² (280.3 square miles) and has 1,093,000 inhabitants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tbilisi

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So any idea why America supports dictatorship in Gerogia?


Opposition Rally in Georgia Against pro-American president Saakasvili

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Is Mikhail Saakashvili a Jew?
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Is Mikhail Saakashvili a Jew?
I don't know that. But he was a lawyer in New York before becoming president of Georgia.

Mikheil Saakashvili (Georgian: მიხეილ სააკაშვილი) (born December 21, 1967) is a Georgian politician, the President of Georgia and leader of the ENM. Saakashvili was elected to replace President Eduard Shevardnadze, who stepped down in Georgia's 2003 bloodless Rose Revolution, led by Saakashvili and his major political allies, Nino Burjanadze and Zurab Zhvania, and took office on 25 January 2004.

After graduation, while working in the New York law firm of Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler in early 1995, Saakashvili was approached by Zurab Zhvania, an old friend from Georgia who was working on behalf of President Eduard Shevardnadze to recruit talented young Georgians to enter politics. He stood in the December 1995 elections along with Zhvania, and both men won seats in parliament, standing for the Union of Citizens of Georgia, Shevardnadze's party.

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From New York Times:

Georgian Leader Imposes a State of Emergency



Riot police officers fired tear gas outside Parliament at demonstrators opposing the government of President Mikheil Saakashvili.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/wo...eorgia.html?hp


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Thats a foolish question. America has a history of supporting illegally elected governments and dictatorships. Its all about the interest of America. For example, at one point it was America interest to fund the evil nation of Afghanistan to defend themselves from Russia. It was also our interest to establish relationship with and fund Saddam at one point. Its our interest now to maintain good relations with the King of Saudi. Looking at Georgia, American interest there should be pretty obvious...Russia.

So lets realize that America supports those who they will benefit from. Rather that be resources, strategic opportunity, or simply pressure. I am pretty sure that close ties between Georgia and US puts a hell of a lot of pressure on Russia. Imagine if US allied with all former Soviet states, that is a ton of pressure in my opinion. Its not like America has decided to support Georgia because they believe in dictatorship and evil, its because its in the best interest of our nations for one reason or another. Although there seem to always be blow back, it has worked for the past 50 years. Like they say, If its not broke, don't fix it.
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For example, at one point it was America interest to fund the evil nation of Afghanistan to defend themselves from Russia.
Excuse me? Afghanistan was not evil.
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Excuse me? Afghanistan was not evil.
Well, some people believe different.
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So lets realize that America supports those who they will benefit from. .
Just like the people vote for the democrats who give them handouts? They pay no mind on whats good for the country. Democrat voters just want to know who's going to take from others to give to them. Can we say redistribution of wealth? Meanwhile you guys are complaining about Georga when liberals of the past and present have championed Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Hugo Chavez, Che Guverra, Fidel Castro, Aukmadinijad, and Iraqi insurgents uh uh i meant "freedom fighters" as the left lovingly calls them.

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Just like the people vote for the democrats who give them handouts? They pay no mind on whats good for the country. Democrat voters just want to know who's going to take from others to give to them.
Although you're going off topic simply take a cheap shot at Democratic...Your example is partially correct, The US Government is looking out for the best interest of the country and can care less whats good for the world. That is human nature. As for domestic interest, those who are rich despise handouts and swindling of cooperate taxes because its not in their best interest and vice versa regarding the poor. Everyone is out for their best interest, not just Democratic voters, but Republicans too. There are poor Republican farmers down in Alabama who wouldn't think twice about accepting financial assistance and in some cases ask for it. In fact, they vote for the Republican Governor which gives it to them and continue to stand firmly beside them. Its human nature. The rich don't wanna be taxed, while the poor wish for more economic aid.
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Although you're going off topic simply take a cheap shot at Democratic...Your example is correct, The US Government is looking out for the best interest of the country and can care less whats good for the world. That is human nature. As for domestic interest, those who are rich despise handouts and swindled taxes because its not in their best interest and vice versa regarding the poor. Everyone is out for their best interest, not just democratic voters, but Republicans too. Its human nature.
Republicans dispise the redistribution of wealth because it is socialism and against the 5th amendment! Taking the happyness away from one man in order to give it to another is everything our founding fathers stood against! They spoke of life liberty and the persuit of happyness. Not the guarentee of happyness at the expence of others!

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The 5th!

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