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Old 07-08-2008, 03:17 PM
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...history doesn't know such words as coulda, shoulda, woulda.....
For example Bulgarians was only 20.000 tents when we captured there, we could asimilate easily, and they lived more than 550 years as a citizen Ottomans.
Also, Ottoman Sultans' wife usually from Russia(so Sultans had Russian blood) and some Veziers are originally Russian despite of . . . Russia made Panslavizm.
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For example Bulgarians was only 20.000 tents when we captured there, we could asimilate easily, and they lived more than 550 years as a citizen Ottomans.
Also, Ottoman Sultans' wife usually from Russia(so Sultans had Russian blood) and some Veziers are originally Russian despite of . . . Russia made Panslavizm.
You had some trouble capturing Serbia. Almost a century of trouble.
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You had some trouble capturing Serbia. Almost a century of trouble.
Hey do you Know, Our Golden Age was Sultan Suleiman's time, and there is a Famous vezier, Sokullu Mehmed Pasha - his Father was Serb, and his Mother was Croat. He tried to capture Wien.
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Hey do you Know, Our Golden Age was Sultan Suleiman's time, and there is a Famous vezier, Sokullu Mehmed Pasha - his Father was Serb, and his Mother was Croat. He tried to capture Wien.
Yeah, another example of the "blood tax" tradition. But fortunately, we kicked your arse so hard that you will never attempt to approach Serbia again.
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Yeah, another example of the "blood tax" tradition. But fortunately, we kicked your arse so hard that you will never attempt to approach Serbia again.
I look your country with a microscope. Whatever many Ottoman Veziers from your people controlled Ottomans politics on your country .

You were in deep sleep, until French revolution, your natioonlist feelings awaked, you got your independence freely Ottomans was fighting with France and Russians

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. . . Russia made Panslavizm.
Thank to Panslavism. Still, there are people like ATD.... not all those cheap kholops from eastern Europe who sold their arses to Uncle Sam after Cold War in exchange of Coca-Cola bottle..
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I look your country with a microscope. Whatever many Ottoman Veziers from your people controlled Ottomans politics on your country .

You were in deep sleep, until French revolution, your natioonlist feelings awaked, you got your independence freely Ottomans was fighting with France and Russians
There is an expression in Serbia that says: poison is usually kept in small bottles (as well as the best parfumes).

Considering your losses, lets remind everybody how a microscopic country beat the crap out of an empire:

First Serbian uprising

Second Serbian uprising

First Balkan war

Was the independence gained freely?
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Thank to Panslavism. Still, there are people like ATD.... not all those cheap kholops from eastern Europe who sold their arses to Uncle Sam after Cold War in exchange of Coca-Cola bottle..
Hehehe, very true. Lets not forget our Russian brothers and their powerful march against the Turks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War
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There is an expression in Serbia that says: poison is usually kept in small bottles (as well as the best parfumes).

Considering your losses, lets remind everybody how a microscopic country beat the crap out of an empire:

First Serbian uprising

Second Serbian uprising

First Balkan war

Was the independence gained freely?
One Question :
Were you alone ? all these uprisings and Balkanian War ?

Balkanian War
England,France and Russia supported you and threaten Ottomans,(Because Ottomans was Germeny's ally - after few years First World War began) at same time we were fighting with Italians who occuppied Tripoli. You fought us with assistance of Greeks,Bulgarians. So you were not alone. We fought against to 4 countries.

Uprisings were managed by Russia and Supported by Russia and France to devitalize Ottoman Empire, and They successed.

You were same equality with Anatolian Turks, only you didn't have independence state, more than 500 years so I understand your feeling of inferiority

But If I were a Serb, I would do same thing.

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One Question :
Were you alone ? all these uprisings and Balkanian War ?

Balkanian War
England,France and Russia supported you and threaten Ottomans,(Because Ottomans was Germeny's ally - after few years First World War began) at same time we were fighting with Italians who occuppied Tripoli. You fought us with assistance of Greeks,Bulgarians. So you were not alone. We fought against to 4 countries.

Uprisings were managed by Russia and Supported by Russia and France to devitalize Ottoman Empire, and They successed.

You were same equality with Anatolian Turks, only you didn't have independence state, more than 500 years so I understand your feeling of inferiority

But If I were a Serb, I would do same thing.
On the contrary, we feel very superior to you because we have kicked your treachery arse far from this piece of Earth.

One more thing, we fought those wars by ourselves (the uprisings), and the 1st Balkan war we fought in a coalition of Balkan countries so we kicked your arse collectively
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