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Old 06-14-2005, 11:44 PM
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Hi, can somebody explain me why some countries (EU newcomers) are trying to drive a wedge between EU and Russia? Poland insists on EU analyzing Russia’s attitude to EU’s newcomers! What is it? Is it newcomers’ attempt to knock up their price? *beep*, to tell the truth they could spoil relations between EU and Russia by those announcements. Well, Poland and other care about themselves but don’t think about EU as a the whole. France, Germany and Spain are on the contrary interested in strengthening relationship with Russia, their strategic partner supplying us with gas and oil. But hairy mongrels want the contrary and push Old Europe to confrontation with Russia. It’s ravings of a madman. I think that newcomers must know their place in EU. Look, if we follow their tastes who’ll supply us oil or gas? May be we could get it form Poland? No? Well, I see. So newcomers must be following the American line to weaken EU!
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Russia hasn't exactly been the best neighbor to Eastern Europe. The are probably a bit untrusting. Actually, I can't say that I blame them.
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Default Russia is a monster with an evil past

Russia is a monster with an evil past, not a very good present, and very likely could have a very evil future. Russia has:

01- Invaded it's neighbors
02- Committed genocide; The Great Famine perpetrated upon Ukraine and other victims nations.
03- Ethnic cleansing in the Crimea, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia, Siberia, Chechnya, etc etc
04- Deportation of millions of people to the gulags
05-Destruction of other peoples language and culture
06- Political assassinations
07 Interference in the elections of it's neighbors Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia
08- REconomic warfare against former captive Republics - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia,
09- Mass Murder of religious leaders

And you wonder why countries are cautious about the monster Russia ???
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Russia is a monster with an evil past, not a very good present, and very likely could have a very evil future.
Russia vs USA

1. Human rights

1.1. The indigenous population lives in Reservation
Russia - No
USA - Yes

1.2. Concentration camp
Russia - GULAG up to 1956
USA - Guantamo NOW!!!

1.3. Prosecution of heterodoxes
Russia - up to 1985 (Brezhnev)
Brodsky, Solzhenicyn and Others

USA - up to 1954 (senator McCarthy)
Chaplin, Arthur Miller, Bertold Breht and others

2. Democracy:

2.1. The President is selected the majority of the population
Russia - 2000 - Yes, 2004 - Yes
USA - 2000 - No, 2004 -Yes

2.2. Quantity of candidates in presidents
Russia - 6

USA - 3

2.3. Quantity of candidates political parties in Parlament
Russia - 23
USA - 2

2.4. Quantity of political parties in Parlament
Russia - 4
USA - 2

3. History

3.1. Cancelling of slavery
Russia - 1861
USA - 1862

3.2. Use of the weapon of mass destruction against civilians
Russia - No
USA - YES!!! 1945 (Hirosima, Nagasaki)

3.3. The equal rights of people belonging to different races
Russia - 1917
USA - 1962

4. Occupied territories
Russia - Estonia (my historical Motherland), Litua, Litva up to 1991
USA - Iraq - NOW!!!

5. Other

5.1. Opportunity to drink beer in the street
Russia - YES!!!
USA - No

5.2. Nazis at a politicalforum.com
Russia - No
USA - 1 (f100supersabr)
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The United States has never killed millions of its own people before....
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Default Russians killed my people, not their own.

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The United States has never killed millions of its own people before
The problem is that Russians did not kill their own people, Russians killed":
Armenians
Chechen's
Belorussians
Estonians
Latvian
Lithuanians
Poles
Ukrainians
Georgians
Azerbaijanis
Tajiks
Kirghistan's
Tatars
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If they killed heir own people that would be bad, but that would be their own business. Russians killed my people, not their own.
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MAXFROM RUSSIA CALLED ME A NAZI: THIS IS WHY! I WROTE THE TRUTH AND HERE IT IS AGAIN:
Russia is a monster with an evil past, not a very good present, and very likely could have a very evil future. Russia has:

01- Invaded it's neighbors
02- Committed genocide; The Great Famine perpetrated upon Ukraine and other victims nations.
03- Ethnic cleansing in the Crimea, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia, Siberia, Chechnya, etc etc
04- Deportation of millions of people to the gulags
05-Destruction of other peoples language and culture
06- Political assassinations
07 Interference in the elections of it's neighbors Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia
08- REconomic warfare against former captive Republics - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia,
09- Mass Murder of religious leaders

And you wonder why countries are cautious about the monster Russia ???
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