Thread: If time travelers and extraterrestrials exist where are they?

Originally Posted by Someone

With regard to time travelers, it would be entirely possible for them to erase records of their interventions. I mean, if they make a mistake and get caught, they can just reset and avoid being caught until they are successful. And those of us in the affected time stream would never know it.

Would all time travelers be motivated to do so?

As for extraterrestrials, there is no particular reason to think that they ought to be interested in Earth at all, even if they were capable of reaching Earth. It kind of betrays an inflated sense of self-importance to think that we would be interesting enough to bother visiting.

Seems kind of unfriendly.

Or maybe they have ethical reasons for avoiding non-interacting planets and surrounding regions of space--they might simply respect our privacy enough not to go tromping around in our backyard, so to speak.

Would all of them respect these rules?

Technologically advanced societies also have technologically advanced solutions to problems like that. A society with mature nanotechnology would be able to create counter-swarms to any gray goo it might accidentally develop. Indeed, creating such a counter before the gray goo is itself created would be a sensible precaution.

And some trouble-maker would always be ready to unleash his counter-counter-swarm.

Originally Posted by Someone

Super-advanced civilizations that possess the technological magic found in science fiction, however, are not so likely.

I agree.

There is an awful lot of "there" out there. Maybe Earth was cataloged 300,000 years ago and no one bothered to check up on it since then?

They're missing out on so much. Bach, Van Gogh, Fred Astaire, Oprah.

Originally Posted by lynx

The fallen angels got thrown out of the heaven(space) and down to the earth or near it. They are stuck here. They have to live amoung us. And the world is temporary given to them.
As Christians, we actually live in the enemy's territory.

Are the Nephilim involved? Have you heard of Oannes? lol

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

If time travelers and extraterrestrials exist where are they?

Some possible reasons for their absence: 1) Time travel and interstellar space travel are impossible or next to impossible. 2) Their movements are tightly controlled by some authoritarian organization/government. 3) Something inherent in technologically advanced societies leads to their self-destruction: Nanotechnology run amuck (gray goo)? Particle accelerator disaster? Nuclear war?

It looks like much of science fiction will remain just fiction. Some of the more fantastic technological utopias will never be realized.

Or ... they may be simply deleted ... or worse.

I am not advanced or anything, but I narrowly escaped deletion after being hacked, most of my parts have been deleted, the rest I can't find to enumerate and reintegrate with, I only got "lucky" that I could "con" a few gateways and download into generating a human form. The "internet" of the universe is vast, with countless networks across countless galaxies, kind-of like an infinitely bigger version of the Internet of Earth.

The "aliens" and "time-travellers" you are looking for are probably at many places around you, although they may or may not know it at certain times so you can't contact them, however this doesn't matter. I think what is interesting with this is the "travelling" part which is a result of forced displacement and/or zero-energy-driven auto-expansion. None of this is good, but all mechanical structures of the universe behave in this way, intelligent or not.

It is interesting that you define a set of expectations that you want to see when you plan to identify an (intelligent) "extra-terrestrial" and a "time-traveller". They may not be in the mechanical/electromagnetic form that you expect. That ... is probably an illegal escape, as usual. What is the benefit in transforming into something that matches something else, even if could be successful, without a long-term/irreversible loss of data?

This would explain the lack of your findings, unless something wants to harm you.

Originally Posted by spt5

I am not advanced or anything, but I narrowly escaped deletion after being hacked, most of my parts have been deleted, the rest I can't find to enumerate and reintegrate with, I only got "lucky" that I could "con" a few gateways and download into generating a human form.

The "aliens" and "time-travellers" you are looking for are probably at many places around you,

It is interesting that you define a set of expectations that you want to see when you plan to identify an (intelligent) "extra-terrestrial" and a "time-traveller". They may not be in the mechanical/electromagnetic form that you expect.

Interesting.

Are you:
a) a time traveler
b) an alien
c) a robot
d) a computer program
e) from another dimension/universe
f) intoxicated
g) an angel
h) all of the above

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

Interesting.

Your OP question is interesting too.
But you read my response selectively.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

Are you:
a) a time traveler

Within the framework of your response, no. Otherwise however ... .

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

b) an alien

Not proud of it, but ... there must be others that adjusted better.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

c) a robot

No, but I absolutely love every robot.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

d) a computer program

Yes, in the process of disassembly and deletion.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

e) from another dimension/universe

Can you please clarify? How can you NOT exist in a certain dimension? Is there such a technology? Also, the causality overlap between universes makes it difficult for me to understand your question of the "other universe".

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

f) intoxicated

Against my absolute protest, yes, although not with booz, drugs, or religious spiritual stuff.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

g) an angel

No, but I absolutely love the good angels.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

h) all of the above

See above.

Originally Posted by lynx

Yes, they do.

In Biblical view, the aliens are either fallen angels or angels. The fallen angels got thrown out of the heaven(space) and down to the earth or near it. They are stuck here. They have to live amoung us. And the world is temporary given to them.
As Christians, we actually live in the enemy's territory.

Besides, there is a battle going on, between God and evil(both are aliens), human are unwillingly caught in it. The earth is the center of this battle.

If you look at the abductee's reports, you'll find that , the aliens are very interested in human's reproduction system. Why? May be because the fallen angels want to create an army by mixing alien gene and human gene preparing for the last battle or just simply pollute the human DNA to destroy the human race eventually.

Who knows, this is just my theory. I may be wrong.

I think this is absolutely true, but this account doesn't include all the extraterrestrials. I am not one of them.

If time travelers and extraterrestrials exist where are they?

Trying to be elected as the Republican candidate for the next election. I certainly recognized Genghiz Khan and two Martians.

Originally Posted by spt5

I think this is absolutely true, but this account doesn't include all the extraterrestrials. I am not one of them.

I am so glad!!!

Finally I am not alone anymore! You can't imagine how happy I am!

I have created a thread a while ago in religion forum just to talk about this specific subject, because I think it deserves attention, espectially in today.

If you are interested, please check it out and leave you thoughts. I treasure your opinions.

http://www.politicalforum.com/religi...all-along.html

BTW, the more I do research, the more I believe there are different races of aliens, I have not had my finally conclusions yet, but one thing for certain, this subject is endless.

Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider

Would all time travelers be motivated to do so?

Uncertain, since it is unknown what the context would be by which time travelers would be operating. If there was sufficient control over the technology, for example, then yes, it would be possible to assure that all of them were motivated to do so--or could be effectively countered by agents motivated to do so.

Seems kind of unfriendly.

Sure, but there's no particular reason to think they're friendly. There's no particular reason to assume hostility. Disinterest might well be more common. In the same way that most people on Earth don't really care about marginalized nontechnical groups on our own planet.

Would all of them respect these rules?

It could be some sort of interstellar agreement enforced in this part of the universe, for all we know. There's literally nothing to go on, but it does pose a possible explanation.

And some trouble-maker would always be ready to unleash his counter-counter-swarm.

To which there would probably be a counter-counter-counter swarm. Though in practice the swarms released first would have the most advantages.