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    Originally Posted by RevAnarchist

    and that is what makes plancks constant and the whole of QM a joke

    that is my quote and you posted it as if you wrote it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshAir View Post
    though there may be feedback problems with going back in time
    I do not think so. Like I mentioned, the universe has a way of resolving itself.

    For example, if you went back in time and tried to kill yourself before you went back in time, you would find, for some reason or another, that all your attempts would become thwarted. It would be as though luck and probability completely turned against you, in what would seem to be the most inexplicable manor.

    Read about the double slit experiment. Probability gets shifted by necessity when the future path of the particle-wave becomes subject to interference phenomena. A time paradox would violate the law of coherence. Two different realities cannot coexist side by side. Something would have to happen to conserve this. Physicists are not entirely sure what would happen, but likely it would be the option that has the highest probability of happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    I do not think so. Like I mentioned, the universe has a way of resolving itself.

    For example, if you went back in time and tried to kill yourself before you went back in time, you would find, for some reason or another, that all your attempts would become thwarted. It would be as though luck and probability completely turned against you, in what would seem to be the most inexplicable manor.

    Read about the double slit experiment. Probability gets shifted by necessity when the future path of the particle-wave becomes subject to interference phenomena. A time paradox would violate the law of coherence. Two different realities cannot coexist side by side. Something would have to happen to conserve this. Physicists are not entirely sure what would happen, but likely it would be the option that has the highest probability of happening.

    but if the scientist put something there, then the cause is observed. For example; to create the cat in the box experiment, the options are already placed (dead/alive), before either is observed, the answer has its probability.

    ie... the thought experiment of the time travel is easy.

    Creating the synario is the capability of conscious mind, doing the traveling before the event (predetermining, the outcome).

    ps.... the double slit experiment is an incorrect analogy
    If existence only operates ONE way, is the math the name to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Hoveland View Post
    I do not think so. Like I mentioned, the universe has a way of resolving itself.

    For example, if you went back in time and tried to kill yourself before you went back in time, you would find, for some reason or another, that all your attempts would become thwarted. It would be as though luck and probability completely turned against you, in what would seem to be the most inexplicable manor.

    Read about the double slit experiment. Probability gets shifted by necessity when the future path of the particle-wave becomes subject to interference phenomena. A time paradox would violate the law of coherence. Two different realities cannot coexist side by side. Something would have to happen to conserve this. Physicists are not entirely sure what would happen, but likely it would be the option that has the highest probability of happening.
    I dont think we can travel to the past where we would be able to see ourself. the reason is, each person is the center of his or her travel sphere, you can only move away from the center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The DARK LORD View Post
    I dont think we can travel to the past where we would be able to see ourself. the reason is, each person is the center of his or her travel sphere, you can only move away from the center.
    I do not agree with this. The general consensus among physicists is that all matter in the universe is linear (like a string in some ways) that exists within a four-dimensional space-time. The you that exists in the past exists in the same way that the you of the present exists. There is no reason you cannot meet yourself. However, the very fact that you do not remember meeting yourself already probably means that you will never go back in time to meet yourself before the current time now. It is not theoretically inconceivable that time travel could have bizarre effects, however, such as wiping people's memories clean from certain events to conserve coherence, and prevent a paradox. Indeed, in an effort to prevent the formation of a paradox, it could even be possible that the universe of presenting probabilistic resistance to time travel to the past. That is to say that making a time machine might be nearly impossible, not for technical reasons, but because the universe is actively conspiring against it. The whole phenomena of coherence does, in a way, act as one giant quantum computer.

    This brings up an intriguing idea that God does exist, in a way at least. A divine intelligence is proved by science, and this intelligence must necessarily become manifest (on macroscopic scale) if anyone attempts time travel to the past. There is a force which forsees the future to prevent paradoxes, whether it is interference of waves or whether it is to prevent time paradoxes.

    As unlikely as all this sounds, it is the most likely of any of the other options. Time travel to the past would be extremely difficult. To actually do so would force the universe to do unlikely things.
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    I know all the scientific stuff, all the theories, curved space, curved time, multidimensions etc. But my belief is this.

    We may at some time in the future figure how we could go back and view what happened in the past, and I don't mean reruns on TV. But we will not be able to interact with it, and at no time in the future will we be able to or they would have and we would know about it. As for the future, well it hasn't happened yet so how can we go where it is non-existent. The future is changed every nanosecond by every person. Every decision we make in some way affects the future. The future will in some small way be changed because of this thread, it already has, I had no plans to talk about time travel until I read this thread. The OP has changed the future.
    Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something - your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life. Steve Jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by The DARK LORD View Post
    DIDNT think so, but now I have proof it is possible, theoretically. Anyone care to pipe in?
    Alternate universes is a cool idea, but have no rational substance to sustain such a belief.

    Time does not fit on a horizontal line as we so commonly think of it. Time is three dimensional.

    think about the speed of light, and distances,
    distance = time.....
    no, because there is no past nor future.
    everything is just now.

    so there is no where to travel, no where to go.
    everything stays in NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishadi View Post
    that is my quote and you posted it as if you wrote it.


    put the helmit back on
    OH GAWD! I DID NOT SAY THAT SORRY FOR THE MISQUOTE!!! LOL I love and approve of QM and accept plancks constant as as true as it can be with the current evdience we have. Science is nearly always wrong given enough time. Still its the best tool we have to describe our universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DominorVobis View Post
    I know all the scientific stuff, all the theories, curved space, curved time, multidimensions etc. But my belief is this.

    We may at some time in the future figure how we could go back and view what happened in the past, and I don't mean reruns on TV. But we will not be able to interact with it, and at no time in the future will we be able to or they would have and we would know about it. As for the future, well it hasn't happened yet so how can we go where it is non-existent. The future is changed every nanosecond by every person. Every decision we make in some way affects the future. The future will in some small way be changed because of this thread, it already has, I had no plans to talk about time travel until I read this thread. The OP has changed the future.
    I agree lol. Really tho' backwards time travel may one day happen or maybe it already has. However I am sure something would happen to prevent a paradox, such as when one goes back and does something different his universe immediately splits into another universe with its own timeline, or maybe by going back it changes the universe of the traveler and again he owns his own timeline never again being able to reenter his old universe; ie the universe from which he came.

    reva
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevAnarchist View Post
    I agree lol. Really tho' backwards time travel may one day happen or maybe it already has. However I am sure something would happen to prevent a paradox, such as when one goes back and does something different his universe immediately splits into another universe with its own timeline, or maybe by going back it changes the universe of the traveler and again he owns his own timeline never again being able to reenter his old universe; ie the universe from which he came.

    reva
    how twisted your thoughts could be in agreeing that time travel is possible.
    it can never be possible. time travel is the product of a primitive and stupid mind.

    tell me, can you ever go back on this date, September 11, 2001?

    every event that takes place is gone / erased in every (so called) nano second.
    to think that that there is a past/future, is only literal to the existing brain.

    he who first thought of a time travel and its possibility is damn moron.
    they who believe in this stupidy of mankind is he himself damn moron.

    moses and jc are not true.

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