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The Senate voted 83-16 this afternoon to build 370 miles of triple-layered fencing along the Mexican border, as debate continued over whether, and to what degree, citizenship should be made available to America’s 11 million undocumented workers. Applauding the measure, Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions said, “Good fences make good neighbors.”


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living in california is crazy...i would pay for this...it all depends on how much though...
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I'm sure Halliburton can get it done very efficiently for a low price.
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Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun,
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
(...) Robert Frost MENDING WALL


Stupidity can beget irony.

Frost's "Good fences make good neighbors" is put into the mouth of a grumpy dolt who's imagination can't exceed his father's cliches. This famous poem's meaning is that fences make for bad neighbors.

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What a total waste of money. Not to mention ugly as heck!

BTW, they can STILL tunnel under it....climb over it. So, why waste the money? Who's STUPID idea is this?????
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Or whomever wishes to build it. We can use illegals as labor.
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The fence part of the bill is mainly designated for areas of high illegal traffic and was never about a fence across the entire border. Most of the border is already covered by fences walls and such..just not enough manpower to man them effectively and limp laws that make enforcement of the border almost pointless...thats changing now.


If the left starts vocally fighting these measures they can forget about any gains they may have made.
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The fence part of the bill is mainly designated for areas of high illegal traffic and was never about a fence across the entire border. Most of the border is already covered by fences walls and such..just not enough manpower to man them effectively and limp laws that make enforcement of the border almost pointless...thats changing now.


If the left starts vocally fighting these measures they can forget about any gains they may have made.
I Don't think the left has to worry about losing gains they have made. I think congress and Bush has already cleared the path for dems to walk right in, in November.
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Then your sniffing glue.

The path is not clear by any measure. Very few elections are even in the balance those that are even if the Dems won them all would still keep the majority as Republican.


"I don't really agree with the President but I like my local representative and I find the Democrats to be clueless in their solutions to real issues affaectign me and this nation"
Basic standard theme of replies you will get form people nationwide.

If the left gets vocal about Immigration it wil become the central issue of this years elections. If that happens you can forget about even the modest gains that are unlikely to occur as it is.
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Here's What Bush has done to help his fellow republicans out of the house and senate.


1. Have oil executives develop your energy policy.

2. Develop and pass a prescription drug plan too difficult for seniors to understand.

3. Attempt to back a plan to sell ports to a Dubai firm.

4. Announcing major combat operations ended on May1, 2003.

5. Say your going to increase Pell Grant funding, then cut it.

6. In 5 years, double the national debt.

7. " Brownie, You're doing a heckuva job."

8. " He is the right man, for the right position, at the right time." Bush explaining his nomination of Porter Goss to head the CIA. "He is the right man, for the right position, at the right time." Bush explaining his nomination of Michael Hayden to head the CIA.

9. Harriet Myers.

10. Have your Office of Special Plans cherry pick intelligence as justification for the war in Iraq.

11. Promise to attack pork barrel spending, and fail to veto one bill.

12. "See, in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things, over and over again, for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." direct quote-5/24/04 Greece, NY

13. Deride nation building during the debates.

14. Say we are addicted to oil, but offer no bold leadership strategies on alternative fuels.

15. 11,000 new mobile homes-costing 850 million, put in another flood zone-sinking in Arkansas mud.

16. Develop and pass a drug plan-claiming it will cost 534 billion over 10 years, then telling us it will cost 1.2 trillion over 10 years,--after it passes.

17. Distance yourself, and dismiss Lawrence Lindsays' estimate of the war cost to between 100 and 200 billion- as way too high, and grossly exceed that estimate already.

18. Use more signing statements to bypass accountabilty than any other President in US history.

19. Cut taxes, and grossly increase spending.

20. Create on the worst images the US has ever had abroad, even among our allies.

21. " Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." 8/5/04 in DC.

22. No entitlement reform.

23. Dick Cheney's hunting skills and good counsel.

24. "I don't think anyone anticipated the breech of the levies."

25. George Tenet's Presidential Medal of Honor.

26. Saying you won't have a litmus test for judicial appointees, but making darn sure not a one of them supports a woman's right to choice.

27. Secret Eastern European prisons.

28. Having Karl Rove face posiible obstruction and lying charges.

29. Approving the demobilization of the Iraqi army in May, 2003- bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and revesing an earlier position, leaving thousands of Iraqis armed ,disgruntled and unemployed, resulting in massive security problems for our forces there.
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Not a federal election..and alot of the things on your list have either turned out to be pure hype or have simply died from public indifference.

..then theres some that are simply Bizarre and would only get play or be taken seriously by the Far Left which contrary to internet Myth is a laughingstock to most Americans and has an abyssmal record in everything they assosciate themselves with politically.
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