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Old 04-19-2007, 12:54 PM
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Funny...when you hear from the troops, they say the surge is working. However, that doesn't fit the surrender monkeys' agenda on Capitol Hill. Defeat is the only thing that would make the Commucrats happy. Surrender, appeasement, compliance. ...and we used to be such a strong country.

Such a shame....the world's strongest, most feared military, handcuffed by bureaucrats purposely for the sole intent of losing a war, so that one corrupt political party can "look better" than the other.

The factions who have sworn our destruction are on the eve of conquest of one of the most critical parts of the world.
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He goes far enough to say already that we've lost, but not far enough to call for immediate withdrawal. I suppose he's willing to leave the troops that are over there now to wither and die on the vine.
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He goes far enough to say already that we've lost, but not far enough to call for immediate withdrawal. I suppose he's willing to leave the troops that are over there now to wither and die on the vine.
That way, when we finally win, and Iraq can stand up for themselves, Komrades Reid and Pelousy can claim a huge Commucratic victory, after the Hildabeast is in office.

See...the Commucrats have always known we would win....they just didn't want it to happen while Bush was in office.
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I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with both of you and almost comically inform you gentlemen I've been saying this for months.
Thankfully this board is not overrun by detached, chart-swallowing, atheist morons like most of them are and I'm always glad to see other people that at least have an idea of the ways things are. It's no secret in a non-partisan view that this government's top hierarcy 'doesn't have its head screwed on right'. I can hardly think of anyone in congress of the cabinet that is really doing their job the way they should be doing it. People seemingly begin to stop caring about the important things as long as there's plenty of money flowing which is foolish, short-sighted and a terrible injustice and shame.

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You hit a home run there, man.

NO ONE in congress cares about the overall success of this country. Every word, every breath, every gesture is only about one thing....gaining political power over the other party.

We so desperately need a third political party to rise to their level. It's "Lord of the Flies," - Government Style. A third party would put both these loser parties in check, or at least put fear in them, to where they might START caring about what happens to this country.
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Funny...when you hear from the troops, they say the surge is working. However, that doesn't fit the surrender monkeys' agenda on Capitol Hill. Defeat is the only thing that would make the Commucrats happy. Surrender, appeasement, compliance. ...and we used to be such a strong country.

Such a shame....the world's strongest, most feared military, handcuffed by bureaucrats purposely for the sole intent of losing a war, so that one corrupt political party can "look better" than the other.

The factions who have sworn our destruction are on the eve of conquest of one of the most critical parts of the world.
Funny how 200 Iraqi deaths from bombings in one day is thought of as the surge working, with US and Iraqi troops having stones thrown at them.
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Harry says his "conscience is great" and he feels good about telling that to the President. Sounds to me like he's trying to convince himself.
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And now a word from our Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates:
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...."The debate in Congress ... has been helpful in demonstrating to the Iraqis that American patience is limited," ... "The strong feelings expressed in the Congress about the timetable probably has had a positive impact ... in terms of communicating to the Iraqis that this is not an open-ended commitment." http://www2.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_04/011146.php
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The President has also told them our committment is not unlimited. They KNOW that.

But the Dems also told the enemy that we cannot win...and now are telling them we've already lost. The Dems have provided the enemy all the hope and encouragement they need. Even al Sadr is on the Democrats side of things. He, too, agrees with a time certain for us to leave. That's so he can go in there and slaughter a bunch of people.
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Once again, note the logic: In debating the war, any suggestion that the war should be ended or cannot be won is treason and disloyalty. Thus the only valid debate is over how best to continue fighting the war -- not *whether* we should continue fighting it.

Seriously, listen to yourselves. I get so tired of the "(*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you do, (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you don't" logic lines that people set up. If Democrats don't propose an immediate end to the war, they're liars and cowards; if they do, they're traitors. No matter what they do, you get to slam them.

Such a logical setup should be accepted as proof of partisan framing and disregarded as a fallacy.

I think Harry is jumping the gun, inasmuch as the surge still needs time to prove itself -- the recent humongous carnage in Baghdad notwithstanding. But in a democracy, it is perfectly acceptable to voice the opinion that the war is unwinnable. That is the only way to have a free and full debate over the war and thus arrive at the best policy. It is distinctly unAmerican to frame the issue in such a way as to disallow viewpoints you don't like.
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