As Bush and Cheney sectarian civil war fumbles forward...

More and More Military Commanders speak up every day!

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...4-1702,00.html

THERE is "no way" the war in Iraq can be won by the United States and its allies, a former British Army commander said as he called for the troops to be withdrawn. General Sir Michael Rose, who commanded the United Nations Protection Force in Bosnia-Hercegovina from 1994 to 1995, said coalition forces in Iraq were facing an impossible situation.

"There is no way we are going to win the war and (we should) withdraw and accept defeat because we are going to lose on a more important level if we don't,'' he said.

Though the coalition could not simply "cut and run,'' Gen Rose said announcing a withdrawal date would help to dampen down the violence between Sunni, Shia and Kurdish factions.

"Give them a date and it is amazing how people and political parties will stop fighting each other and start working towards a peaceful transfer of power,'' he said.

Gen Rose was speaking at the annual Hay Festival of Literature and the Arts in Hay-on-Wye, on the Welsh border with England.

The retired general who has written a book on the American War of Independence, made comparisons with the 1775-1783 conflict between Britain and the Thirteen Colonies.

He said: "How was it a small and extremely determined body of insurgents, thieves and deserters could inflict such a strategic and potentially disastrous defeat on the most powerful nation in the world?

"The answer will be familiar to anybody who is looking at what is happening in Iraq today.

"Those who don't read history are condemned to repeat the mistakes of the past.''

He said the allies in Iraq should have deployed more troops and not used a conventional war strategy.

"You don't win wars by regime change but by changing attitudes,'' he said.

He said that Iraq should have been low on the priority list compared to Afghanistan, conflicts in Africa and the battle against international terrorists.

If true then we should pull out, and well done for trying to paint that picture Goldendog, but I feel your sources are n't that strong, this fellows suffering from sour grapes.

There sure are a lot of defeatists in the world today. Sure glad there weren't this many around back just before WWII. We'd be living in a very different world today.

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

We had a plan and an enemy in WWII.....we have none now.

So if you think this war can be won.....how do we win it? When is it won?

Terrorists don't surrender.

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Most people think Great God will come from the skies But if you know what life is worth You will look for yours on earth And now you see the light You stand up for your rights

Sure wish there were more "stay the course" chickenhawks to stop the "defeatists" from pulling us out of Vietnam. I'm sure Vietnam would not be the same alarming dangerous communist threat today if we still occupied it.

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See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction.

- G.W. Bush, 10/3/2003

1. Why does everyone always give WWII analogies? There were so many other great wars.

2. So you're saying one should never admit defeat?

3. That's the best you can do?

What danger has Vietnam posed????? Communist threat? You really can't be serious.