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Old 08-17-2007, 12:39 AM
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He got elected the second time due to his hollering that gay marriage was going to become legal if we didn't vote for him just like Reagan used the abortion scare to get re-elected. Preachers were banging their church bells telling people that if they didn't get down to the booths and vote for Bush then the gays would be getting married to each others. Many are now feeling stupid to have let such a silly scare over-ride their rationality. The gay marriage thing could have been handled without voting in a catastrophic disaster for a second time.
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DUH2 and JP5, that is not a few thousand small arms gone missing, it's 200,000. If you consider there is no more than 100,000 front line American troops in Iraq (and that's being optimistic, given the manning requirements for rear echelon support), that's 2 automatic rifles in the hands of people probably hostile to that one front-line infantryman. Brilliant! And when did the US government officially become middle-east level corrupt?
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:09 PM
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:57 AM
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Just thought i'd re-visit an old qoute by Janglo to show his lameness on this issue.
Let's get one thing straight. Your issue with me has little to do with Iraq or Afghanistan. It has to do with my insistance that Israel has every right to exist. Usually we clash on the "Zionist Conspircay" forum. So this whole thing with us has little to do with this missing riffles, but it does explain your diminished mental capacity in understanding my point.

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Again, I ask the question, if the US military does'nt use AK-47's why did they buy 200,000 of them.
First off, you have never asked this question before to my recollection, but no matter. You think the US baught these guns for US troops to use ? It's to supply to the wonderfully trustworthy Iraqi military and police forces. AK-47s are cheap to produce and are reliable. This region is very familiar with them since Arab forces where mostly supplied by the former Soviet Union during the cold war. So it's not for our troops, it's for the newly freed Iraqi troops. The only problem is that they got lost. There are now 200,000 less of these weapons than there should be. So where did they go ? Well, they are likely being used by Sunni insurgents to shoot at US forces and Shiites, and by Shiite insurgents to shoot at US troops and Sunnis. And at the end of the day the day, you dear tax payer, pick up the tab !! So you kinda answered your own question. Why did the US supply an extra 200,000 of these weapons if they wheren't needed ? Because it's an extra 200,000 weapons to the arms manufacturer.

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And this was all a plot by the arms dealer so that the arms could get shipped to the Iraqi's?
Not just by arms dealers/manufacturers. This is a general behavior pattern by the US govt in which it does not take fiscal responsibility for it's spending, and even worse, for the lives of US troops and the Iraqi populace.

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Again, I reiterate, he sells guns, not cake's. It seems to me your acting like a fat girl in front of a cake shop, over-reacting, as usual.
Non sequitor. What do cakes and guns have to do with each other. They sent 200,000 guns over there that are missing. Now either they wheren't needed in which case why where they ordered and sent there, or they are needed in which case some arms manufacturer out there has another order for yet another 200,000 weapons. And once again, you are picking up the tab since the US governemt is bankrolled by tax dollars.

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Anything else you don't understand my dearest NewBegginings ?

You might wanna brief Newbe on the 13,000 missing GLOCKs.

Oh wait..lookie, just found one... tracked via serial number and all.


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Iraq's Arms Bazaar
How firearms intended for Iraqi security forces are winding up in the hands of extremists across the region.

Aug. 20-27, 2007 issue - On the afternoon of Feb. 5, 2006, at a small church in the Turkish Black Sea city of Trabzon, Father Andrea Santoro was kneeling in prayer when a bullet from an Austrian-made Glock 9mm pistol hit him in the back and pierced his heart. The soft-spoken 60-year-old Italian priest, who lived in poverty ministering to the city's tiny Christian community, slumped to the floor, and the killer squeezed off another round. "Allahu akbar!"—"God is great"—said the shooter, a 15-year-old boy with a grudge against the West.


In May of last year, another Muslim fanatic, guns blazing, attacked Turkey's supreme court in Ankara. Four justices were wounded and one was killed. The assassin's weapons of choice were a pair of Glock pistols.

The attacks were no mystery. What puzzled Turkish police was the weapons' origin. Glocks are high-quality sidearms, but by last year they had practically become common street weapons in Turkey. More than 1,000 had been taken from criminals, guerrillas, terrorists and assassins all over the country, and authorities believed tens of thousands more had found their way onto the black market—but from where?

The Austrian government repeatedly checked the serial numbers of the murder weapons. The manufacturer informed Ankara that the pistols were consigned originally to " 'US Mission Iraq' [formerly the Coalition Provisional Authority], address: Republican Presidential Compound, Ministry of the Interior, Baghdad, Iraq."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226447/site/newsweek/
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First we airdrop billions of greenbacks to the terrorists, then we give them weapons. Brilliant!!

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Just thought i'd re-visit an old qoute by Janglo to show his lameness on this issue.
Let's get one thing straight. Your issue with me has little to do with Iraq or Afghanistan. It has to do with my insistance that Israel has every right to exist. Usually we clash on the "Zionist Conspircay" forum. So this whole thing with us has little to do with this missing riffles, but it does explain your diminished mental capacity in understanding my point.

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Again, I ask the question, if the US military does'nt use AK-47's why did they buy 200,000 of them.
First off, you have never asked this question before to my recollection, but no matter. You think the US baught these guns for US troops to use ? It's to supply to the wonderfully trustworthy Iraqi military and police forces. AK-47s are cheap to produce and are reliable. This region is very familiar with them since Arab forces where mostly supplied by the former Soviet Union during the cold war. So it's not for our troops, it's for the newly freed Iraqi troops. The only problem is that they got lost. There are now 200,000 less of these weapons than there should be. So where did they go ? Well, they are likely being used by Sunni insurgents to shoot at US forces and Shiites, and by Shiite insurgents to shoot at US troops and Sunnis. And at the end of the day the day, you dear tax payer, pick up the tab !! So you kinda answered your own question. Why did the US supply an extra 200,000 of these weapons if they wheren't needed ? Because it's an extra 200,000 weapons to the arms manufacturer.

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And this was all a plot by the arms dealer so that the arms could get shipped to the Iraqi's?
Not just by arms dealers/manufacturers. This is a general behavior pattern by the US govt in which it does not take fiscal responsibility for it's spending, and even worse, for the lives of US troops and the Iraqi populace.

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Again, I reiterate, he sells guns, not cake's. It seems to me your acting like a fat girl in front of a cake shop, over-reacting, as usual.
Non sequitor. What do cakes and guns have to do with each other. They sent 200,000 guns over there that are missing. Now either they wheren't needed in which case why where they ordered and sent there, or they are needed in which case some arms manufacturer out there has another order for yet another 200,000 weapons. And once again, you are picking up the tab since the US governemt is bankrolled by tax dollars.

Anything else you don't understand my dearest NewBegginings ?
Hear say and hot air Janglo, no doubt what your lot make nuclear bombs with.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:32 AM
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You might wanna brief Newbe on the 13,000 missing GLOCKs.
Oh wait..lookie, just found one... tracked via serial number and all.
Really interesting Tedminator. Had no idea. Can't say I'm fully surprized though. Like you say, some very not kosher things going on out there.

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Hear say and hot air Janglo, no doubt what your lot make nuclear bombs with.
And there we have it ladies & gentlemen ... "your lot". I assume you mean "Israelis" since you then go on to make a stupid joke about nuclear bombs, which Israel has plenty of. The most interesting point is that whereas I take your argument apart point by point (it wasn't hard), all you say is that I'm full of hot air. Here's a piece of advice ... don't become a lawyer. Pathetic I tell ya.
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