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Old 02-08-2008, 09:57 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7234817.stm

This is very bad.

We all thought it wasn't going to happen, but it is


The problem is, now the Bush has run us into a huge debt, we don't have any money to start countering Russia. Russia is now taking advantage of our weakness, just like we did after the Cold War.

Great job Neo-Cons, let's intimidate Russia.

Oh wait now they're intimidating us............
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I'd call there bluff - ramp it up and surround them with a defense sytem that any Country that requests one can have our help.


We aren't forcing our freedom on anyone - they are asking for our help to protect them against Russia - what are we meant to say?


The Eastern European Countries Poland, CZ Ukraine want to join the free World and leave Russia behind - I'm all for helping them stand free against the intimidation of Russia and their treats.
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This is actually good. The more countries with advanced weapons, the more those weapons can be spread to counter US hegemony.
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This is actually good. The more countries with advanced weapons, the more those weapons can be spread to counter US hegemony.
Right, because in the 1950's-80's when the Soviets were stockpiling nukes most of the world thought it was a good thing.
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Now hold on not too long ago you dismissed the Cold War news of 2008......now its real because Putin overtly admits it?



Cold War 2008 news

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I'd call there bluff - ramp it up and surround them with a defense sytem that any Country that requests one can have our help.


We aren't forcing our freedom on anyone - they are asking for our help to protect them against Russia - what are we meant to say?


The Eastern European Countries Poland, CZ Ukraine want to join the free World and leave Russia behind - I'm all for helping them stand free against the intimidation of Russia and their treats.
You do know that the intercepters that we are putting in Poland and porbably Hungary and Romania are designed to shoot down missiles from the Middle East right?

Missiles launched from russia would be on a different Ballistic track that the ABM's in Eastern Europe aren't being targetted against.

Not to mention, the ABM's aren't meant to target SRBM's and Cruise Missiles.
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You do know that the intercepters that we are putting in Poland and porbably Hungary and Romania are designed to shoot down missiles from the Middle East right?

Missiles launched from russia would be on a different Ballistic track that the ABM's in Eastern Europe aren't being targetted against.

Not to mention, the ABM's aren't meant to target SRBM's and Cruise Missiles.
Do you really think that if Russia put missles in Mexico we wouldn't be outraged, regardless of what their stated purpose was for? Are you that naive, or just being disingenuous?

As for the freedom nations, look at how are we reacting to Cuba's support of Hugo Chavez in Venezuala, a country we feel is in OUR sphere of influence. The Russians don't really care if places like Kazakhstan are democracies or dictatorships: what they care about is that they look to Moscow and not to Washington D.C. or Brussels.
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The thing is with our missile systems we are putting in E.Europe, most people do not want them there.
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The thing is with our missile systems we are putting in E.Europe, most people do not want them there.
The Government that those people elected into Power wants the missile defense systems

You will always get a few moaners
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So do those people but they are just like 'normal' people.

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