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Old 06-01-2004, 11:03 AM
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Scroll up I listed about 10 links talking about a possible draft.

Just because it hasnt made it through the legilation yet means little.
Of course they are going to put it on the back burner because its election time. Its being prepared and Kerry wont talk about it either because he may need to do it as well.
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Hows this

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...4403-9384r.htmhttp://www.vancouver.indymedia.org/n.../01/105146.php
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1222-02.htm
http://www.suntimes.com/output/greel...t-greel23.html
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...ua_congressorg
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...3_draft13.html
http://www.nisbco.org/uaa12-9-03.htm
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssen...al/8531777.htm
http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_draft.php
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/ap...draf-a22.shtml
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=33754
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/tuccille5.html
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...2_draft01.html
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo.../04/draft.html
http://www.utne.com/webwatch/2004_147/news/11211-1.html

True the draft may not happen, but I think its much closer than you give it credit.
None of these support, much less prove your point:

1. Reports that Nader is using scare tactics to get youth votes. His campaign spokesman says in the article, “"I don't think that Ralph feels that the draft is imminent,”

2. A letter in response to the congress.org rant… means nothing

3. Editorial on why the draft would be a bad idea… doesn’t support your assertion

4. Link didn’t work

5. Your original congress.org soapbox rant, repeated and still meaningless

6. Talks about draft preparations for skilled workers, but states that “the possibility of a so-called "special skills draft" is remote.”

7. All speculation and rumor: “Other sources have informed us of a rumor that the administration is talking with Republican members of Congress on the possibility of a draft. This is a sign that the draft may be reinstated”

8. Talks about how the draft works, but (again) does not assert one likely to happen.

9. Mostly reports Hagel’s and Rangle’s postions on the draft (again, probably to scare young people into voting). Does not assert one is likely to happen.

10. Again talks about Hagel and Rangle, but goes further to talk about troop shortages and why a larger military might be helpful. Fails to report that we are exceeding congressionally mandated limits, instead alluding to a draft but never asserting that one is likely to happen… more media scare tactics to sell papers.
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The administration would never reveal the real likelyhood of the draft with the upcoming elections.

They will keep it speculation and rumor with the law waiting on the back burner till a president is elected, thats why its still where its at a year later. Like I said Kerry may even pass it himself.
Powell has come out and says he doesnt support it, why would he do that if there was no chance of this passing? The fact that its in the works is enough to make you wonder and to just dismiss it as hearsay is ignorant.
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The administration would never reveal the real likelyhood of the draft with the upcoming elections.

They will keep it speculation and rumor with the law waiting on the back burner till a president is elected, thats why its still where its at a year later. Like I said Kerry may even pass it himself.
Powell has come out and says he doesnt support it, why would he do that if there was no chance of this passing? The fact that its in the works is enough to make you wonder and to just dismiss it as hearsay is ignorant.
I bet you we currently have in "in the works" battle plans for invading China, Korea, Syria, Iran, and a dozen other countries. We prepare ourselves for many things, whether or not there is a high likelihood of their occurrence is another question entirely.
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They would put up a fight, we steer clear of imminently dangerous countries that can fight back.
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http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/draft.htm

This guy might have blunt style, but he makes a strong argument as to why the draft is not likely.
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No!!! I wouldnt support a draft. If I got picked they would have to drag me out of my house and throw me in jail. I wouldn`t wanna fight for something that is not right and not morally right.NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!!!!!!!!!!
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Default tough question

I voted yes, but my real answer would be that I support a draft only if it is needed, and if it is fair. Of course, I am of age to be drafted (22) so this may be a frightening thing if it is a reality. However, I will serve my country if I am asked to.
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I did hear these "rumors" several months ago, and actually found a bill in Congress that has yet to be voted on.

They were called the "Universal National Service Act of 2003."

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/hr163.html

I did a bit of research on them, and there's one thing about them that I have spent hours trying to figure out, and that's, why the heck is the bill sponsored and introduced by all Democrats? in the House AND Senate?

Isn't that a bit odd?
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And your research should tell you that this law has no chance of passing because its not your typical military draft. The Democrats proposed it as opposition to the war in Iraq and I believe, unless I'm mistaken, the law calls for children of high-ranking government officials and the wealthy ($250 thousand and above) to go first. The idea was to have them know what it's like to have a loved one being sent off to war.

Of course if there is a draft, I sure as hell hope that the wealthy aren't deferred just because their families have power.
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