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Old 06-07-2004, 02:12 AM
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Here is an intersting article about the draft rumors. Check it out, maybe it will shed some light for you:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5139838/site/newsweek/

It seems to me like the Draft rumors are just a lot of hype. I've already volunteered once so I am not eligible for the draft. But if the Draft is started up, I will volunteer again.

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I voted yes, but my real answer would be that I support a draft only if it is needed, and if it is fair. Of course, I am of age to be drafted (22) so this may be a frightening thing if it is a reality. However, I will serve my country if I am asked to.
You are pro-war, and you say you would serve your country if needed. Right now, there are shortages of troops, so much so that people who have served their TOD's are being forced to stay. The military is recruiting hardcore because we are stretched thin.

What is it exactly that YOU'RE waiting for?

I assume that you're another conservative who is happy enough to reap the benefits of war without putting your own butt on the line. So... Here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is.

Or... are you a chickenhawk?
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I voted yes, but my real answer would be that I support a draft only if it is needed, and if it is fair. Of course, I am of age to be drafted (22) so this may be a frightening thing if it is a reality. However, I will serve my country if I am asked to.
You are pro-war, and you say you would serve your country if needed. Right now, there are shortages of troops, so much so that people who have served their TOD's are being forced to stay. The military is recruiting hardcore because we are stretched thin.

What is it exactly that YOU'RE waiting for?

I assume that you're another conservative who is happy enough to reap the benefits of war without putting your own butt on the line. So... Here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is.

Or... are you a chickenhawk?
I actually tried to joing last year, but they would not take me because of my bad knees. I have had three major surgeries in the last two years. I don't even know if they would take me if I was drafted in a year, but who knows.
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is needed when the leadership cannot make a rational case for why people should volunteer.

"Here in Missouri, people see little difference between a conscript and a convict." Beauchamp Clark (D-MO) Fmr. Speaker of the House (US) and Missouri Senator.

Everyone who voted yes should go volunteer, if they are of age. Otherwise, change your vote to a no.
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Old 06-07-2004, 08:08 AM
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I voted yes, but my real answer would be that I support a draft only if it is needed, and if it is fair. Of course, I am of age to be drafted (22) so this may be a frightening thing if it is a reality. However, I will serve my country if I am asked to.
You are pro-war, and you say you would serve your country if needed. Right now, there are shortages of troops, so much so that people who have served their TOD's are being forced to stay. The military is recruiting hardcore because we are stretched thin.

What is it exactly that YOU'RE waiting for?

I assume that you're another conservative who is happy enough to reap the benefits of war without putting your own butt on the line. So... Here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is.

Or... are you a chickenhawk?
I actually tried to joing last year, but they would not take me because of my bad knees. I have had three major surgeries in the last two years. I don't even know if they would take me if I was drafted in a year, but who knows.
There's always the Peacecorps, Americorps, and Vista. Plus, your nemesis John Kerry is proposing even more national service programs. I'm sure you could find one that would work.
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Default I plan on working for the government in some way

My father and sister both work for the government for intelligence agencies. I hope to do similar work. True, it is not fighting in the front lines, but I think by doing this I will be serving my country in a way that I can help the best.
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There's always the Peacecorps, Americorps, and Vista. Plus, your nemesis John Kerry is proposing even more national service programs. I'm sure you could find one that would work.
For the record, I think it is a great idea to establish more service programs. I don't think the people in this country do enough, to be honest.
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Default Well That Explains A Lot

Hansmolesman's family works in US intelligence services and that's where he wants to serve his country? -- well that explains a lot about the massive intelligence failures.

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But seriously, someone so rabidly pro-Iraqi war, you seem like a massive hypocrite at the age of 22 to not have signed up to serve in the US armed forces and do your part -- after all, you can work in US intelligence (God Forbid!) later -- that is if you don't come home in a body bag that Bush won't let Americans see and Republicans will whine about if Ted Koppel memorializes your sacrifice by reading your name on Nightline.
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I think a draft would be great! I think it's one thing that would finally make the sheep in this country realize how dangerous W is...
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how far could the US Government go before the American people rebeled and refused enmass? We seem willing to put up with a lot of BS. i think they know it would hit the fan hard especially since all of congress knows the whole iraq war was a big fat lie. defending our nation is one thing, colonizing foreign lands for oil is insane. All Americans should stand up to Bush and say enough is enough. Why is Congress doing nothing? Because even though I thought Republicans in the Senate were moral and decent people, they actually are quite corrupt and jaded and willing to team up with the White House and corporations against the American people-i don't see the democrats doing much either. Who in the Senate is standing up against Mr. Bush? They all pretend they didn't know Bush was telling lies. I knew as soon as he switched gears from Osama to Saddam. They knew! They all have plenty to gain from the oil industry.
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