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Old 07-09-2004, 10:20 PM
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Default Draft? I think everyone should serve some time, whiners!

I can't believe all the whiners in here. "My God a draft? No way, I'm not going to war, my son's not going to war!! I mean isn't freedom free? And definitely not this war!! If I ever go to war, I'm choosing the war I fight."

yeah right, as if we all agreed on every other war, NOT!!!! And so what if you don't believe in it!! I didn't believe in everything my dad believed in, but I respected him enough to follow anyway, and I'm glad I did too. So go ahead and flee cowards, because thats all I hear!! Go live somewhere else or stand up and fight like a man for your country!! Shouldn't be a draft anyway, I'd make every American serve at least 2 years for their country. I bet it straighten all of things out too. I'd make all you go.. Rich, poor, black, white, rednecks, Jews, Indians, foreign Born, you name em, they are going!! ONWARD SOLDIERS!!!
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Old 07-09-2004, 11:18 PM
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Like many of us "cowards" have said, we'd be willing to fight if our freedoms were actually in jeopardy. Every person I know would grab a gun and stop the Chinese if they invaded the West Coast.

Since WW2, we've been involved in wars about economics more than any thing. The government just wraps them in rhetoric about freedom, liberty, and democracy to make us feel better about them.

I'm only going to fight if my freedoms are in jeopardy. I can't think of any war since WW2 in which our freedoms were really at stake. Go ahead and fight in a war for economics if you want.

I'm a staunch isolationist and was against our actions in Vietnam, Bosnia, and Iraq. The latter is a war about securing oil, so if you want to die for that, be my guest. I live on 10 acres and can grow my own food when oil reaches $100 a barrel, so I couldn't really give a (*)(*)(*)(*). Saddam posed no threats to my liberties.
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Old 07-09-2004, 11:34 PM
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Default Draft a liberal

Drafting a liberal's kid will awake him to the REAL world. This will be doing them a favor.
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Old 07-10-2004, 04:05 AM
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I can't believe all the whiners in here. "My God a draft? No way, I'm not going to war, my son's not going to war!! I mean isn't freedom free? And definitely not this war!! If I ever go to war, I'm choosing the war I fight."

yeah right, as if we all agreed on every other war, NOT!!!! And so what if you don't believe in it!! I didn't believe in everything my dad believed in, but I respected him enough to follow anyway, and I'm glad I did too. So go ahead and flee cowards, because thats all I hear!! Go live somewhere else or stand up and fight like a man for your country!! Shouldn't be a draft anyway, I'd make every American serve at least 2 years for their country. I bet it straighten all of things out too. I'd make all you go.. Rich, poor, black, white, rednecks, Jews, Indians, foreign Born, you name em, they are going!! ONWARD SOLDIERS!!!
But on the other hand, we did have a president who not only dodged the draft, he actually advertised it on foreign soil. Which just goes to prove you can dodge responsibilities and still become president of the United States.
Everyone no matter who they are should go.
But since there not be another draft, all this is moot.
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Old 07-10-2004, 06:18 AM
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Drafting a liberal's kid will awake him to the REAL world. This will be doing them a favor.
Yes draft a liberal's kid, b/c the Republicans in charge will do everything in their power to ensure their kids and the kids of their rich friends don't have to fight, just like in Vietnam.

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Default In today's military

there's more to worry about than becoming a casualty.

The new and imporved military under our Dictator-in-Chief requires the troops to be more than just patriotic and willing to die for the freedoms of americans and the american way.

These days, they have to be willing to take orders beyond that of normal duty -- they must be willing to torture, rape and murder innocent people, including children and do it with no questions asked.

Then, when caught, they must be willing to completely take the blame by echoing the one-liner "I was only following orders -- my parents never taught me right from wrong" and of course never mention exactly who gave the orders.

Imagine this -- you're the parent of Ms 'Thumbs-up' Lyndie England and she goes to Iraq for her year of tour. You're proud of her and months later, super excited that she may be home shortly and all in one piece. Thank God.

Then, you find out what she had been up to and watch the military courts drag here through the dirt like a pick-up truck rolling through Jasper and then the hammer comes down with a 15 year sentence ... (which is in her cards at the moment)

You sit and wonder -- It seems like just yesterday my little girl was playing with dolls and now she's going to be spending 15 of her best years behind bars in a federal prison -- ruined for life.

That's what people should be thinking when they hear about the draft. Not only wondering if their kids will come home healthy but how they will be used while over there on duty. There is no indication this administration has changed their ways one iota -- the torture, rape and murder continues and your kid can be part of it.

That's a whole new meaning for "be all you can be"

I wish all parents the best of luck with the upcoming draft -- they will need it.

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Default draft?

I didn't read through the entire thread so apologies in advance.

We should not and probably will not reinstate the draft. The military doesn't want a draft and with enlistments still strong there is no need.

This draft talk is nothing more than scare tactics used to divide the American people.
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Old 07-10-2004, 07:26 AM
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The fact that the army has initiated a stop loss and is now pulling soldiers back in from inactive reserves shows that the Army is shorthanded. Other branches seem to doing fine. The Air Force is actually letting people out of contracts b/c they have too amny people. The Army is stretched thin, there is arguing that. If something happens and we have to open another front, a draft may be necessary. There are no gurantees on what will happen down the road.

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The fact that the army has initiated a stop loss and is now pulling soldiers back in from inactive reserves shows that the Army is shorthanded. Other branches seem to doing fine. The Air Force is actually letting people out of contracts b/c they have too amny people. The Army is stretched thin, there is arguing that. If something happens and we have to open another front, a draft may be necessary. There are no gurantees on what will happen down the road.

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Ya know....if this was the first time this happened I would probably agree but it happens fairly frequently. I believe it is common practice during any military engagement. My best friend's son just got turned down due to acne, how desperate can they be, really?

Plus I doubt we have too many more fronts ahead of us that will call for so many ground troops. Iraq was unique. Most wars these days will be fought predominately with air power.
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Old 07-10-2004, 07:42 AM
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We've been consistently deployed in Military engagements for the last 15 years. Never before have we been stretched so thin. Never before has the stop loss been so extensively applied. And as far as your friends son being rejected, there may be other reasons but no one ever accused the military of being intelligent. I know I was there.

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