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Old 07-11-2004, 10:05 PM
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IF I was drafted, I would NOT serve! First of all a draft is basically slavery. It is involuntary servitude and I do not believe in that. Secondly F*** George Ws war I will not fight in a war that should have never been started and I will definatley not fight for anything that I do not believe in. I pick my battles and this is Georges war and I do not affiliatew myself with his wars. This war is not mine nor is Bush my leader and I DO NOT BOW TO HIM! I will fight him 100% on this b/c I believe in the principles that this country was founded on...
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Old 07-12-2004, 01:48 AM
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IF I was drafted, I would NOT serve! First of all a draft is basically slavery. It is involuntary servitude and I do not believe in that. Secondly F*** George Ws war I will not fight in a war that should have never been started and I will definatley not fight for anything that I do not believe in. I pick my battles and this is Georges war and I do not affiliatew myself with his wars. This war is not mine nor is Bush my leader and I DO NOT BOW TO HIM! I will fight him 100% on this b/c I believe in the principles that this country was founded on...
I wouldn't fight for GW either. But if there was a draft, the last thing on my mind in battle would be Bush. I would fight for the men on my left and on my right. I would fight with all I have to ensure that we all make it home. Sometimes you have to do things you don't agree with. I won't fight for Bush's policies but I will to protect the lives of Americans I serve with.

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Old 07-13-2004, 07:10 AM
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IF I was drafted, I would NOT serve! First of all a draft is basically slavery. It is involuntary servitude and I do not believe in that. Secondly F*** George Ws war I will not fight in a war that should have never been started and I will definatley not fight for anything that I do not believe in. I pick my battles and this is Georges war and I do not affiliatew myself with his wars. This war is not mine nor is Bush my leader and I DO NOT BOW TO HIM! I will fight him 100% on this b/c I believe in the principles that this country was founded on...

It's better to disagree with the war and fight a draft then to support a war and get your kids out of the draft.





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Old 08-09-2004, 03:16 PM
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I believe in freedom of choice and because of that I would never support a draft. If the war is truly justifiable, like actually defending America, not like Iraq's war, then people will fill the ranks so they never would have to use the draft. For example after 9/11 and we went to war against Afghanistan to defend our nation against the horrible attacks on us from them and the ranks filled because people believed in it. I am proud of our all volunteer military force and I would like it to stay that way.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:56 PM
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something this personal shouldnt be a collective decision. Nobody should decide wether or not you risk your life(legally) but you.

I say this is the order in which people are to be drafted:
first go the politicians and their families who approve of it.
Next go the citizens who approve of it.

No way should 27-99 year olds decide wether or not to send 18-26 year olds to die on foreign soil away from home. Its not ethical in any aspect, once you cut out the rhetoric, that is. the draft is a fascist institution. I hope that america is not fascist.

look at this websote. A compilation of information reguarding the draft. Read this before you dismiss it as rumor
http://www.geocities.com/draft_in_2005/

IMHO, most terrorism threats would end if we were to cut off all foreign aid to israel. i was in favor of that in the first place; i would prefer saving millions in taxes to spending millions of lives, dont you think??
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:00 PM
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Default FOR THE LAST TIME, THESE DRAFT BILLS ARE BUNK

Just read the wording:

"A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes. "

"To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes. "

These are not Vietnam-like drafts. They're asking for men and WOMEN to serve the homeland in some fashion. No sane-minded politicians would pass such a bill. Not to mention, it'd take millions of dollars and a lot of manpower to get all women to register for Selective Services. Don't even get me started about how the entire U.S. military isn't designed for draftees...

All of these rumors about the draft are left-wing propaganda. I'd genuinely beleive that the Democrats could win in November if they didn't have people like Michael Moore and congressionalwatch.org spewing BS.
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something this personal shouldnt be a collective decision. Nobody should decide wether or not you risk your life(legally) but you.
I say this is the order in which people are to be drafted:
first go the politicians and their families who approve of it.
Next go the citizens who approve of it.
You wouldn't mind someone else fighting for the freedom you enjoy? Well, with this as your criteria then let's start seperating society into those who have sacrificed, those that are willing to sacrifice, and those that have chosen to do nothing. People have already died for the freedom you enjoy now. Surely you aren't so selfish as to deny future generations what you yourself have

It doesn't seem that fair anymore does it?


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No way should 27-99 year olds decide wether or not to send 18-26 year olds to die on foreign soil away from home. Its not ethical in any aspect, once you cut out the rhetoric, that is. the draft is a fascist institution. I hope that america is not fascist.
America isn't fascist. You speak of rhetoric in one sentence, and then use it in the next.

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IMHO, most terrorism threats would end if we were to cut off all foreign aid to israel. i was in favor of that in the first place; i would prefer saving millions in taxes to spending millions of lives, dont you think??
That's exactly what they want. If you want to encourage terrorism everywhere, just appease them with their wishes. It will guarantee further terror.
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Default ... Oh there's going to be a draft.

Thank you George I can't find my arse with both hands, Bush.

Now that we've hit the bee hive with a rock, we have to take care of the swarming mess.

I can honestly say that MY 18 year old son is worth MORE than Bush's two twits he calls daughters. So he can send them. As soon as they go, I'll pat my boy on the back and say so long.

Of course, Bush would sacrifice his kids for his career, like any psychopath! That's what makes him so unique, his ability to lie to everyone and the Neocon's ability to buy into it.
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save your post and see. There will not be a draft.
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Default No Draft!!!

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I agree. Of course there isn't going to be a draft, unless the U.S. is invaded! All of the so called references these Chicken Little's have been posting are nothing but uninformed rabble rousers.
One of the earlier posters supplied a whole list of URL's of supposed supporting articles. I picked 3 randomly. The first one didn't even MENTION the draft. The second was all a flutter because the people currently administering the Registration program initiated by Jimmy Carter are making contingency plans, just in case a draft is ever re-instituted!! And this is exactly what someone with those responsibilities SHOULD be doing!
The 3rd article was nothing but hysteric anti-republican, anti-conservative rhetoric without a shred of actual information!
I assume the poster felt that if he/she flooded his post with spurious support pointers, no one would actually try to read them.

There is NOT going to be a resumption of the Draft which was terminated by a Republican administration.......... Unless maybe the Dem's try to bring it back!!!
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