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Old 05-27-2008, 09:07 AM
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Wow, the Department of Homeland Security is on a roll.

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What a shocker... the government mismanaging something... say it ain't so.

And your the same people that want to turn the health care industry over to them...
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What a shocker... the government mismanaging something...
Yeah.

It's about time we have leaders who try to make the government work, instead of always saying it won't, while they ensure it fails.
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Why not instead we just stop letting our bloated bureaucracy get their grubby hands on every single program they can.

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Old 05-27-2008, 11:51 AM
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Why not instead we just stop letting our bloated bureaucracy get their grubby hands on every single program they can.
Because, as in this case, where conservatives not unlike yourself saw a way to save some coin, we find that companies fail to adaquately secure their own material, because, afterall, they're businesses, who's legal obligation is profit, not national security.

You see, some people have this nonsensical delusion that the government should exist, in part, to keep us safe.

Some people actually think the government should try to do that, instead of wasting hundreds of billions on wars that make us less safe, and asking corporations to do their work for them.
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I don't feel less safe. In fact I feel much safer... when was the last attack within our borders again? Oh ya, that's meaningless.

What I see is tax payer money wasted on bumbling oversight agencies.
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I don't feel less safe. In fact I feel much safer... when was the last attack within our borders again? Oh ya, that's meaningless.
Maybe there have been no attacks because I'm playing a magic lute.

But, a lute doesn't actually stop terrorists, it's just a lute.

Though, as you said, there haven't been any attacks.

So, it must have been the magical lute.

You're engaging specious reasoning.

Besides, we're not supposed to count the last attack, ever, in our judgment.

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No, what you're seeing is the failure of private entities to secure themselves. This is why we have a government: so that businesses can focus on doing business, because that's all they're good at.
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Only a democrat can disassociate a War on Terror with a lack of terrorism... and then try to put up a ludicrous lute assertion like I'm some kind of retard. Lutes don't kill potential terrorist, Americans soldiers do.

Business only has to be good at business, that's what they got in business to do. Security is supposed to come from the 30% cut that Uncle Sam gets out of my check.

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I don't feel less safe. In fact I feel much safer... when was the last attack within our borders again? Oh ya, that's meaningless.
They're too busy killing Americans in Iraq. If the strategy was to get the terrorists to kill Americans in the Middle East instead of here, then it's a success.
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They're too busy killing Americans in Iraq. If the strategy was to get the terrorists to kill Americans in the Middle East instead of here, then it's a success.
I'd rather lose 4k soldiers over the course of four years than 3k civilians in a matter of minutes, if it means that I don't have to watch my countrymen get slaughtered within their own borders again.
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