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As I said in a previous post - its not just nuclear missiles the Russians launch.

Plus - by placing a missile defence system and joining NATO tells the Russians - Do not try and interfere wit this Country or you have the US/NATO to answer to.

So far they have got the message. But you can't take anything for granted with the Russians - they are sly.
Name the last time Russia tried to interfere in some country in EU after the Cold War?

The only nation today that is fond of ultimate interference and treading sovereignty of countries all over this planet is USA (along with their loyal kholops in the north-western part of Europe).

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As I said in a previous post - its not just nuclear missiles the Russians launch.

Plus - by placing a missile defence system and joining NATO tells the Russians - Do not try and interfere wit this Country or you have the US/NATO to answer to.

So far they have got the message. But you can't take anything for granted with the Russians - they are sly.
...all those rusty Skodas from local trash scraps than make such loud senseless statements NATO has no balls to tell us anything. In case of war, Russian Strategic Forces could annihilate that lousy bunch of pederasts aka NATO in a few seconds.
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You said Milosevic oppressed Serbian Muslims. We need to clarify some things here. Muslims in Serbia don't declare themselves as Serbs, but as Muslims (some sort of invented nation, due to the fact they are all mainly of Serbian origin, but converted to Islam during the Turkish occupation and therefore claim to be a special people). These Muslims who live in the area of Sandzak were not oppressed.

Those Muslims you are referring to are more known as Bosniaks/ Bosnians, and they do have a country.


As for Bosniaks not being oppressed in Sandzak, well you are wrong. They were illtreated;

" In neighboring Sandzak, with a large Muslim Slav population, there was similar discrimination, if not as intense as in Kosovo. The wave of state-sanctioned violence that swept through Sandzak during the war in Bosnia abated, but there was continued intimidation, harassment, and violence by the police in 1997. "

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Those Muslims you are referring to are more known as Bosniaks/ Bosnians, and they do have a country.


As for Bosniaks not being oppressed in Sandzak, well you are wrong. They were illtreated;

" In neighboring Sandzak, with a large Muslim Slav population, there was similar discrimination, if not as intense as in Kosovo. The wave of state-sanctioned violence that swept through Sandzak during the war in Bosnia abated, but there was continued intimidation, harassment, and violence by the police in 1997. "

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Situation in Sandzak was never better. There are no conflicts of any kind now. Muslim representatives actively participate in the Serbian parliament and government.

There are some suggestions considering the new prime minister of Serbia - the Democratic party would support Rasim Ljajic, the single most popular and influential politician among the Muslim community in Serbia.

Serbian society is much different than in Milosevic days. Try to get that into your head and stop posting old links. The time of oppression and dictatorship is long gone.
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They did not even interfere when we were bombing their "slavic brothers" during the Kosovo war. Russia cares about Russia.
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Situation in Sandzak was never better. There are no conflicts of any kind now. Muslim representatives actively participate in the Serbian parliament and government.

There are some suggestions considering the new prime minister of Serbia - the Democratic party would support Rasim Ljajic, the single most popular and influential politician among the Muslim community in Serbia.

Serbian society is much different than in Milosevic days. Try to get that into your head and stop posting old links. The time of oppression and dictatorship is long gone.
Yes, things have changed since the 90's.


But if you re-read what you wrote and what I wrote, we were both talking in past tense.
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Socialism is in fact a very humane idea. All of Europe is mainly social-democratic, which is ok. Socialism becomes dangerous when mixed with nationalism, but there are also capitalists who are nationalists and pretty much war-hungry (like the Neocons in USA).

So, it has nothing to do with the system. It has to do with the bad people in power that try to represent the system.
That actually made me laugh out loud.

Socialism, in all of its various 'isms' is the most lethal ideology in human history. It destroys every culture in which it infects and can only inevitably result in death, destruction and ruin.

In just the last 70 years, socialism has resulted in the murder of between 150 and 170 million innocent people and that is times of peace, setting aside the wars which have resulted from the depravity of socialism.
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That actually made me laugh out loud.

Socialism, in all of its various 'isms' is the most lethal ideology in human history. It destroys every culture in which it infects and can only inevitably result in death, destruction and ruin.

In just the last 70 years, socialism has resulted in the murder of between 150 and 170 million innocent people and that is times of peace, setting aside the wars which have resulted from the depravity of socialism.
Explain how socialism proclaims death, destruction of culture etc...

Depravity of socialism led to wars, huh? What about your wars for "democracy"?

Who used nukes? Socialists?
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