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further on taliban issue:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0110/S00004.htm
http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/01042001/Art21.htm
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Well lets just run down the list over the last 100 years.

1-WW1 US joined the fight to free Europe from the oppression.
2-WW2 US joins the fight to free the world from socialist oppression.
3-Korea The US joins the fight to defend South Korea from communist oppression.
4-Vietnam the US joins the fight to protect South Vietnam from communist oppression.
5-Granada, the US liberates Grenada from Communist oppression
6-Panama the US liberates Panama from a despotic dictator.
7-Serbia, the US joins the fight to free Serbian Muslims of communist oppression.
8-Afghanistan, the US directly funds and arms the Muslim Rebel forces to help free them from communist oppression.
9-Gulf War, the US and coalition forces join the fight to free Kuwait from socialist oppression
10-Afganistan, the US liberates Afghanistan from socialist oppression
11-Iraq, the US liberates Iraq from socialist oppression.
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7-Serbia, the US joins the fight to free Serbian Muslims of communist oppression.
You consider Albanians to be Serbian Muslims? Interesting

Communist oppression? Communism was done in Yugoslavia 10 years before the bombing, along with the country itself.

Read some facts, man...
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Our hope is no part of Europe will ever again be occupied by the forces of the Russian autocracy.

The US are very welcome to place missile defence systems and have military bases here.

Lets face it - the truth is America is the defender of freedom and Democracy and Europe wishes to be free and Democratic.
Europe must also bear the burden of its own defence too - but all help is greatly appreciated.

Russia has a poor history of oppression of European countries and has even murdered millions of its own citizens - the stronger and better prepared against Russian agression the better!! NATO and the Democratic coutries should stick together aginst the powers of darkness of Russia and their @ss-licking Serb friends.
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Stupid question: Why can't the US just keep the missiles on it's own soil?
The missiles are designed to intercept ballistic missiles during a certain part of their flight phase, specifically after the boost phase but before the warhead reaches apogee and starts freefall. Missiles coming from Russia would be in their boost phase when they pass the area that is protected by these missiles, meaning that these missiles would not be able to intercept them anyways.

Putting the missiles in the US would mean that they would have to be intercepted during the end of freefall.

Think about that for a second: intercepting nuclear warheads right before they explode. Do you really want to run the numbers on the math that it takes to bring one down at that point. It's nearly impossible.

For another note, intercepting them before freefall would destroy MIRV warheads before they seperate.
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The missiles are designed to intercept ballistic missiles during a certain part of their flight phase, specifically after the boost phase but before the warhead reaches apogee and starts freefall. Missiles coming from Russia would be in their boost phase when they pass the area that is protected by these missiles, meaning that these missiles would not be able to intercept them anyways.

Putting the missiles in the US would mean that they would have to be intercepted during the end of freefall.

Think about that for a second: intercepting nuclear warheads right before they explode. Do you really want to run the numbers on the math that it takes to bring one down at that point. It's nearly impossible.

For another note, intercepting them before freefall would destroy MIRV warheads before they seperate.
And why would Russia be stupid enough to launch nuclear missiles at us? IT'S OVER. COMMUNISM DIED IN THE USSR. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NUKE US.

So why waste billions of dollars on this completely pointless endeavor? I see no reason to waste tax payer money on another stupid and useless military projects, we have plenty of those already.
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Because they need the missiles to surround Russia, not to defend from Iranian ICBM's that don't exist (which US officials claim to be the motive).
So a dozen or so missiles in Poland and Lithuania are going to make all of the thousands of ICBM's in Russia (which those missiles can't even intercept) useless?

Don't be naive. Russia could blanket those intercepter missiles a thousand times over so they obviously aren't designed to stop Russian missiles.

Hell, the missiles sites are close enough to Russias border that they could just destroy them with cruise missiles before launching their ICBM's.

Oh, Iranian Ballistic Missiles that threaten Europe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahab-3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghadr-110
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoura_missile
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And why would Russia be stupid enough to launch nuclear missiles at us? IT'S OVER. COMMUNISM DIED IN THE USSR. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NUKE US.

So why waste billions of dollars on this completely pointless endeavor? I see no reason to waste tax payer money on another stupid and useless military projects, we have plenty of those already.
The intercepters are perfectly positioned to take out ballistic missiles coming out of the Middle East. Those missiles would be in the phase that the intercepters are designed to work against.

I thought you righties were all for protecting innocent people from those crazy muslims.
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And why would Russia be stupid enough to launch nuclear missiles at us? IT'S OVER. COMMUNISM DIED IN THE USSR. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NUKE US.

So why waste billions of dollars on this completely pointless endeavor? I see no reason to waste tax payer money on another stupid and useless military projects, we have plenty of those already.
You see no point?

Then you are being short-sighted.

You have become used to life in the US, the Lithuanians know far better than you about the threat Russia (not the USSR) poses TODAY.
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The intercepters are perfectly positioned to take out ballistic missiles coming out of the Middle East. Those missiles would be in the phase that the intercepters are designed to work against.

I thought you righties were all for protecting innocent people from those crazy muslims.
Not even the crazy Muslims would be crazy enough to nuke us.

Besides, if that's what they're for, then what are our ground troops for? Have they all been wasting their time and the taxpayers money for nothing?

Don't for one minute think that I'm a neo-con just because I'm right wing in America. I'm all for anti-Communism, but I think Russia is in the right this time!
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