homophobe pleads guilty- believed victims to be homosexuals

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  1. SFJEFF

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    Luis Garcia takes plea deal in 2010 anti-gay attack in University Heights

    THE BRONX - One of the men arrested for an anti-gay hate crime back in 2010 pleaded guilty Monday morning to attempted gang assault.
    Luis Garcia will be sentenced to 4 1/2 years in prison as part of a plea deal.

    Authorities say Garcia and six other men were involved in attacking and abusing two teens and a man at a University Heights home in October 2010. Investigators say they burned and tortured their victims because they believed they were homosexuals. Garcia had been accused of wrapping chains around the hands of a victim and punching him repeatedly.


    http://bronx.news12.com/news/luis-g...ti-gay-attack-in-university-heights-1.7561844

    When I read posts here on PF about how homosexuals are to blame for any resentment that they encounter- I think of actual crimes like this- assaults against persons just because they are perceived to be homosexuals.

    Homophobes can also actually resort to violence in their intense aversion to homosexuals.
     
  2. zbr6

    zbr6 Banned

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    Continued misuse of the word "homophobe" greatly diminishes my "give-a-damn" coefficient.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah propaganda word play, this Luis Garcia just like to torture people LARGE EGO..gays where just a excuse to use his Violent expressions, he was probably beaten up as a kid
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology_of_torture
     
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    ho·mo·phobe

    noun\-ˌfōb\: a person who hates or is afraid of homosexuals or treats them badly

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobe
     
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    This guys definitely going to get raped in prison.
     
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    I can't find any other stories which cover this. What I'm looking for is any information which shows that he is deathly afraid of homosexuals, thus a phobia.

    I also take issue with it being a "hate crime" vs simply a crime. If the victim was a heterosexual would it no longer be a hate crime. Are heterosexuals considered lesser in the eyes of the court?

    Anyway, in prison, Luis will soon learn what it's like to be a homosexual.
     
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    Original definition did not include the characteristic "hate". That is a recent addition.
     
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    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Sometimes people over-react, with tragic consequences, but that doesn't make whatever they were reacting to right.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its a petty little game in which they want to associate the idea of fear as a weakness in order sway people to accept them. The problem is it doesn't work, people don't fear gays, but the actions of the militants gays have made more people hostile towards them because they are such bigots and intolerant of anyone or anything that doesn't support them...
     
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    "Hate" has nothing to do with the definition.

    It involved committing a crime against a particular CLASS of people, and the DA must prove the victim was selected beyond any reasonable doubt that the victim was CHOSEN based on that classification.

    No hate needed. Since the act intimidates FAR more people than just the single victim, it is considered a more serious crime.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, right! :roll: Blecch!

    Those nasty gays so rudely speak out against the "nice" people who wish to ban gays, jail them and control their intimate lives, this "hostility" by gays against the "nice people" FORCES the "nice people" to assault, tie up, burn, beat and murder the gays!
     
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    Did you miss the term "HATES" homosexuals OR is afraid of them?

    Duh!
     
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    Tell me, what is a militant gay? Is it someone who actually stands up for themselves? What have gay people in the US done to make you consider them militant? Burned down churches and straight bars?

    Do you even know what he word "militant" means?
     
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    Ya, we were discussing the word homophobe. Nothing more.
     
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    Militant is used to denote those gays that actively (*)(*)(*)(*) off just about every non-gay in the country, although there doesn't actually seem to be a difference between any types of gays, as there is no self-policing in that community. As it stands, gays are the most intolerant people in the whole country, there can be no dissent without attack, but there is also no realization, that gays are a tiny portion of the population and can't win if they keep up with what they are doing...
     
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    the issue is the perverted use of the suffix phobe and phobia

    GLAAD and other groups who lead the homosexuals have taken a word and made a mockery of it

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    I could find no story which discussed a phobia.

    I then was troubled to see that it was considered a "hate crime" so again I ask, are the lives of heterosexuals less valuable than homosexuals?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True enough, but the reality is very different, today homophobe is akin to racist for not liking Obama and his policies, an empty word, with no real meaning...
     
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    no, we aren't blaming any bad things on them being gay.... we say, not everything bad that happens to them is BECAUSE they're gay.


    big difference.
     
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    The FBI considers gay on straight crimes hate crimes if it's done with the motive of simply being anti-straight.

    But since gay people are far more likely to be close to straight people than straight people are to gay people it is EXTREMELY unlikely to find an anti-straight homosexual. But when that happens it will be considered a hate crime.
     
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    (citation needed)
     
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    So you just don't a damn that a homophobe assaults people simply because he thought they were homosexuals.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    How Christian of him/her.

    LMAO
     
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    I have presented the dictionary definition of homophobia to you multiple times. So your post is not from ignorance, but is clearly either a lie, or just denial that dictionaries don't use the definition that you want homophobia to mean.

    Once again- from the Oxford Dictionary:
    Homophobia
    An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

    I find it odd that you seem more concerned about the court calling this a hate crime, than by the nature of the crime itself.

    That you are more concerned about 'hate crimes' than about the actual physical assault on someone because they are perceived to be homosexuals.
     
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    AND irrational....


    see we still aren't homophobes...

    besides, Johnny C defined homophobia as hitting a queer in the face.....
     
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    So you ignore the current definition because.........you don't like it?
     

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