Russian Armed Forces More Powerful Than NATO

http://sputniknews.com/military/20160103/1032630510/russia-nato-military-superiority.html

Where were the generals of NATO in the 90s? When in Russia was a civil war. Why at that time no one offered to disarm?
Western oligarchs and thieves robbing Russia and hypocritically talked about democracy.
But it's time to recall the words of the great German chancellor:
"Do not expect that once taken advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russian always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreement you signed, you are supposed to justify. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russian cost or fair play or no play. " (Otto Eduard Leopold von Bismarck-Schönhausen)

Western politicians-idiots thought that Russia was dead? Why it was necessary to expand NATO? To humiliate Russian? For example, inclusion of the Baltic countries NATO has made the world safer? Turkey - a NATO member - to provoke Russia and hopes on protect the NATO countries. You agree to die for the sake of profit family Erdogan? But the behavior some idiots in Eastern Europe, could provoke a war Russia - NATO. You agree to die for politicians-idiots?
What do you think about it?

 

who exactly owns sputnik news?

Russia's conventional forces are not more powerful than NATO <Mod Edit>

 

while madd still applies experts estimate that Italys military is more competent than the incompetent russian army. you forget there is a lot to learn on the internet.

 

If you honestly think that Russia is more powerful than NATO, then you're a fool.

 

You certainly more familiar with military potential than the NATO general.

 

did you see that new Russian tank break down in the middle of the Red Square parade?

that was hilarious!!!!!

 

Do you consider yourself smarter than the Austrian general of NATO? ....Especially funny to read comments from the British. Not so long ago the entire British navy could not find a ship that would sail to intercept a Russian warship. British admirals managed with difficulty to find a serviceable warship, that sailed for a week to the location of Russian military ship about British maritime borders.

But you managed to make me laugh. Write more.

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

Maybe you have hallucinations? Or are you deliberately lie? The incident with the tank was on parade rehearsal. The tank is not broken. An inexperienced driver (the driver of the tank - 18 years) could not cope with the management of a complex machine the first time. Parade proshol without incident.
But maybe you're confused with the new American warship? Who could not swim?

But you have a development in the right direction. Everyone who has a brain has to watch the military parade on Red Square.

 

Russia is not quite stupid enough to test this silly theory, and NATO is not a country. Our resident propaganda tool is obviously not in a position to research the realities or unable to grasp them.

 

Many of them are not approved thoughts, politically correct thoughts, but yes, I have thoughts.

 

An article on the study of the Austrian general of NATO. I think he knows better military capabilities of the NATO alliance and Russia than all the commentators of this forum together.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA. how (*)(*)(*)(*)ing adorable is this?

 

And once again destroyer us caught flat out lying. The way he is trying to spin this piece is that all of it was either written or quoted from this Austrian general. That is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie. This right here is the ONLY thing this general said.

"Ever since Putin became president for the second time, Russia has actively invested in developing its armed forces, making them highly sophisticated, mobile and effective, not to mention numerous," NATO General Hans-Lothar Domrose told Contra Magazin.
The general suggested that in order to restore the balance of power, Russia and NATO should engage in disarmament talks."

Not ONE (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) TIME did he even hint at suggesting that the Russian military was even close to more powerful then NATO. He simply stated a fact. That over the past decade Russia has made some pretty decent advances. That's it though. Nothing else. Everything else in this article was written by one of the Sputnik reports. Sputnik of course being a propaganda wing of the Kremlin

Destroyer. Once again you bring shame to your self and your profession. I hope your employer sees this and punishes you severely.

 

Obama has hollowed out the American military, giving the spoils to his constituencies.

 

you might get away with this if the rest of us couldnt google.

 

Whuoattttttt ??? I dont think Russian Army is even powerful than Germany alone or Britain alone. I dont even mention Turkish Army and US.

 

Russia fights with antiques. The old Soviet fleet should be in a museum.

 

The Russian Armed Forces sounds like something out of "Star Wars."

 

How Powerful Is Russia&#8217;s Military?

What are Russian conventional military capabilities?

Both in terms of troops and weapons, Russian conventional forces dwarf those of its Eastern European and Central Asian neighbors (see Table 1), many of which are relatively weak ex-Soviet republics closely allied with Moscow. Russia has a military pact with Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan through the Collective Security Treaty Organization, formed in 1992. Moscow also stations significant troops in the region: Armenia (3,200), Georgia&#8217;s breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia (7,000), Moldova&#8217;s separatist Transnistria region (1,500), Kyrgyzstan (500), and Tajikistan (5,000).



As part of defense reforms, most Russian ground forces are to be professionalized and reorganized into formations of a few thousand troops for low- and medium-intensity conflicts. But for the foreseeable future many will remain one-year conscripts with limited training (military service is compulsory for Russian men aged eighteen to twenty-seven). The Airborne Assault Forces, which comprises about thirty-five thousand troops and whose commander answers directly to Putin, is Russia&#8217;s elite crisis-reaction force. A Special Operations Command, also a reserve of Putin, was created in 2013 to manage special operators outside Russian borders.



As part of defense reforms, most Russian ground forces are to be professionalized and reorganized into formations of a few thousand troops for low- and medium-intensity conflicts. But for the foreseeable future many will remain one-year conscripts with limited training (military service is compulsory for Russian men aged eighteen to twenty-seven). The Airborne Assault Forces, which comprises about thirty-five thousand troops and whose commander answers directly to Putin, is Russia&#8217;s elite crisis-reaction force. A Special Operations Command, also a reserve of Putin, was created in 2013 to manage special operators outside Russian borders.

What are Russian nuclear capabilities?

Russia&#8217;s vast nuclear arsenal remains on par with the United States and is the country&#8217;s only residual great power feature, military experts say. Moscow has about 1,500 strategic warheads on deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), submarines, and heavy bombers. These numbers comply with the so-called New START treaty with the United States, which came into force February 2011. Russia is also believed to have some 2,000 nonstrategic (also referred to as tactical, theater, or battlefield) nuclear warheads......snip~

http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2014/11/how-powerful-russias-military/99062/

 

Have you been paying attention to Syria lately ? The Russkies have accomplished more in a few months than Obama's PC military has in two years.

And back during the 90's it was the liberals who wanted to disarm wanting a so called "peace dividend" claiming that the world will always be a safe place. Then the left decided the only mission of the military is liberal social engineering experimentation. Have you seen the damage Obama has done to the U.S. military ? And NATO, they keep running out of bombs !

 

I like Russia and all, but above else I'm a realist. If Russia continues its trend, then this will be true 10 or more years from now, maybe more

Now to remind you, though wasteful and mismanaged, the US defense budget in 2015 was 7 times greater than its Russian counterpart at a whopping of 601 billion. But the story doesn't end there. The US politician keep bringing up the rhetoric of why we should spend more on our navy. I don't know why, especially since the United States Navy is greater than every navy in the world combined.

Sure Russia has their unmatched nuclear powered battle cruisers, but there are only 4 and right now only 1 is in active service. There is just no need for all for of them to be active. Waste of money you know,but it will be overwhelmed by the sheer number from the United States Navy. Russian armed forces wont fare any better


That being said, Russian anti ship systems and anti air systems, bombs, missiles, and nukes are completely unmatched. I'm not mentioning the Armata or Assault rifles because of the severely lacking numbers. This makes it impossible for any country to invade Russia. few missiles for a ship is an excellent trade. Better could be said about Russian anti Air systems.

However, because Russia severely lacks number compared to US, its also impossible for them to invade America. Realistically, the only option that I could see is this. Send their coastal defense and s400 to the coastal waters close to Alaska and effectively shut down the Bering Straight. Russia will succeed in invading the US, but the invasion itself will be unsuccessful. Why? They lack the numbers.

The only way that this invasion would be successful is if China supplied and funded those numbers. With China's numbers and advanced Russian hardware that are more often than not better than their American counter part, the invasion would be successful. You will keep sending s400 over to further expand you anti air bubble and have Chinese funded Armadas travel with this bubble along with ground troops carrying anti tank missiles. Now I recal tha China has a population problem. They can litterally send the ENTIRE population of the United States in this offensive. Even if all of them are killed, China will still have about 1 BILLION TWENTY-NINE MILLION left.

Anyway, using this strategy, you can separate the East from the West, effectively cutting off most of the food supply. After a timed wait, you will expand from the center in both directions. With the new Russian mobile electronic warfare mobile platform that can even knock out even low orbiting satellites, the problems for US will only compile. You also cant forget about their new photonic radar. Sure there are Abrams with their multi purpose round, but they won't get close. Why? Because with the skies shut down by s400, Russian jets will destroy them. Russia and china may not even need to send tanks in because of this.

But will China join Russia in attacking US? Who knows.




Russia alone will not succeed in invading the US; they will be whipped out.

 

This would be quite a feat, for a country that ranks around 10th place economically. Russia is a major country, no doubt, but obviously lags behind the U.S., and has fewer allies than exist in NATO.

 

You may be new here. There are certain truths on this board that generally go unquestioned:

1) Russia is all powerful and would defeat the U.S. within a week if an actual war broke out.
2) The U.S. is the source of all evil in the world, matching Nazi Germany's immorality and desire for world domination. The U.S. is also ruthless enough to make it a reality.
3) Israel is the American puppet in the Middle East, destabilizing a region that would be filled with peace and prosperity if Israel didn't exist.
4) The West is greedy and decadent. It prospers only because of its exploitation of the third world.
5) The wealthiest 10% in the world cheated their way to wealth. Their assets need to be liquidated immediately, to be given to third world dictators as reparations for colonialism.

That's a start. There are other leftist beliefs and goals you will learn if you stay here.

 

Russia has the same issue its enemies have had throughout history, an unwillingness to note the vast areas that must be crossed to win a war and an unwillingness to note that its army is not big enough to occupy the territory is wants. heck, its had enough trouble with Ukraine right next door.