Syria(Ghouta) 'chemical' attack, is it the worst False flag operation in a history?

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

litwin said: ↑

what are you talking about? Iran will never bomb Israel or any other county in the ME. US/Israel support wahhabists only because they are against Iranian influence in Syria
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Im talking about post 408,

Alexa said we as Israelis should be worried and you added about Iran.

Silver Surfer · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

In my view it is much more logical that Assad will want a swift victory just outside his Capital and terrorize his civilians so they wont even think on betraying him - rather then the rebels decide to commit suicide after months of fighting and give up a town so close to Damascus which more than anything is symbolic achivment for them, as well as it is for Assad.

That's from the motive point which so many seems to waive away.

On the fear from Western response, he slayed his ppl for more than 2 years now and not even a condemination, he has Russia and China, has the silence of the west that dont want Jihadists taking over, according to refugees and intel from other countries he used it before - so why not use it again ?

He knows that both Western and his own allies want him in power so his only concern is how to win the fastest way.
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A lot of nonsense in the above post. First of all, the western powers would be very happy to see him dead, not in power. Secondly, the Syrian government did not used chemical weapons so far. There is not a single independent piece of evidence to corroborate that obvious lie. It is obvious that you have a hidden agenda here.

US-Israeli false flag gas attack unravels By William Bowles

28 August 2013 — williambowles.info

Commit a war crime to cover up a war crime?

This is where it all started: The Israeli intelligence front the Debkafile, which is the source of the story that implicated the Assad government and/or its military in the gas attack on East Ghouta and now forms the basis for the war on Syria.
DEBKAfile’s military sources affirm that, just as the Assad brothers orchestrated the chemical shell attack on Syrian civilians, so too did Hizballah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah set in motion the rocket attack on Israel. – ‘The sarin shells fired on Damascus – by Syrian 4th Division’s 155th Brigade – were followed by rockets on Israel and car bombings in Lebanon‘, Debkafile, 24 August 2013

Let’s try sum up what we do know:

On the 21 August from a suburb of Damascus, Douma (or Duma) then under ‘rebel’ control, two missiles were fired at another ‘rebel’ controlled suburb of Damascus called East Ghouta, killing an unknown number of people, including children. It is assumed now that some kind of nerve gas or at least poison gas was used. The New York Times have documented this here, although they’ve moved some of the locations on the map. In this regard how does the NYT reconcile their take on the source of the missiles with the Mossad version, which makes them artillery shells fired from the mountains in the South ( see the Mossad version below, such as it is). This is confirmed by Pepe Escobar’s report of Russian satellite evidence.

Within hours, or even minutes, videos of the alleged effects of the attack were circulating on the Web and without a pause for a breath (let alone any evidence), led by the UK and followed closely by France, they were blaming the Assad government for the attack and pressing for an immediate attack on Syria, with or without authorisation from the UN Security Council.

For more on this see this Wiki, where details on the launch of the two missiles can be found. It’s not exactly a coherent presentation as it’s an assemblage of links and descriptions, but it looks like the missiles were launched from a Syrian Special Forces base in Douma (or Duma) then occupied by the ‘rebels’.

The ‘Evidence’

For several days, in fact until today, 28 August, there was no evidence offered in the mainstream media that confirmed the allegations made by the US, the UK and France. Then a story released by the Israeli Mossad intelligence service to the German magazine Focus on the 24 August got picked up by the MSM. Today the 28th a report in the London Guardian newspaper tells us that the ‘evidence’ was from an Israeli source, specifically the 8200 intelligence unit of the Israeli Defence Forces,

“which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.” – The Guardian, 28 August 2013

A more complete article on the Israeli connection can be found in a Times of Israel article dated 27 August:

It was Brun, the IDF’s top intelligence analyst, who in April shocked the international community by declaring that the army was quite certain that Assad had used chemical weapons against rebel forces in Syria in March.

This time, too, Israeli military intelligence has reportedly played a key role in providing evidence of Assad’s chemical weapons use. On Friday, Israel’s Channel 2 reported that the weapons were fired by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, a division under the command of the Syrian president’s brother, Maher Assad. The nerve gas shells were fired from a military base in a mountain range to the west of Damascus, the TV report said.

The report did not state the source of its information. But subsequently, Germany’s Focus magazine reported that an IDF intelligence unit was listening in on senior Syrian officials when they discussed the chemical attack. According to the Focus report Saturday, a squad specializing in wire-tapping within the IDF’s prestigious 8200 intelligence unit intercepted a conversation between high-ranking regime officials regarding the use of chemical agents at the time of the attack. The report, which cited an ex-Mossad official who insisted on remaining anonymous, said the intercepted conversation proved that Assad’s regime was responsible for the use of nonconventional weapons.

Giora Inbar, the former head of the IDF’s liaison unit in southern Lebanon, said Tuesday that Israeli military intelligence made a priority of intelligence-gathering in Syria, was very well-informed, and was widely trusted. The United States was “aware of” Israel’s intelligence on the doings of the Syrian regime, he said in a Channel 2 interview, “and relies upon it.” – ‘Israeli intelligence seen as central to US case against Syria‘, Times of Israel (my emph. WB)

Here’s a Google translation of the relevant passage from the Focus article:

Mossad: “poison gas missile by Syrian government forces”

According to the findings of Israeli intelligence community, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is responsible for the gas attack in Damascus. One unit of the Military Intelligence Service Amam, which specializes in wireless spy “Unit 8200″, controlled (tapped?) at the time of the gas attack, the communication of the Syrian army. A former Mossad officer told FOCUS, the analysis has clearly shown that the bombardment with poison gas missiles was made by Syrian government forces. – ‘UN calls on Syria to allow access for poison gas inspectors‘, Focus magazine, 24 August 2013

I think what’s apparent here is that Mossad used a device that is quite common when governments/intelligence agencies want to plant a phoney story; release it through a relatively unknown publication and wait for it to be picked up by the MSM. After all, if the ‘crack’ 8200 Unit was actually listening in on the 21st August “at the time of the attack” to Syrian Army radio, why didn’t they immediately release the information to the world (even as it happened!)? Isn’t that what you or I would have done with that kind of war-starting information?

Then there was the panic on Saturday 24 August by the USUK to try and get the UN inspection team’s visit to Syria, cancelled. Now what was that all about? The USUK backed it up with talk about it ‘being too late’ and that the Assad regime had ‘cleaned up’ (this in an area then not controlled by the Syrian government). Too late to find out if hundreds of people had been gassed?

The sudden reversal and overt hostility toward the U.N. investigation, which coincides with indications that the administration is planning a major military strike against Syria in the coming days, suggests that the administration sees the U.N. as hindering its plans for an attack.

Kerry asserted Monday that he had warned Syrian Foreign Minister Moallem last Thursday that Syria had to give the U.N. team immediate access to the site and stop the shelling there, which he said was “systematically destroying evidence”. He called the Syria-U.N. deal to allow investigators unrestricted access “too late to be credible”. – ‘In Rush to Strike Syria, U.S. Tried to Derail U.N. Probe‘, Gareth Porter, IPS, 28 August 2013

In yet another version of the Mossad-inspired story, in the Israeli Tikum Olam we read:

It [Ynet on the 27 August] says that three senior Israeli military-intelligence officers are currently in Washington briefing their U.S. counterparts on the Unit 8200 intercepts. The paper also claims that the primary evidence the west is using on which to base its charges of Syria government responsibility is the IDF secret intercepts. This makes me nervous for several reasons: one, because IDF claims are notoriously unreliable. This brings to mind the Mossad’s notoriously biased “evidence” offered regularly to the IAEA to “prove” Iran’s intent to develop nuclear weapons. Two, it makes me wonder what Israel’s ulterior motives may be in weighing in like this. – German Report That Israel’s NSA Affirms Syria Government Responsibility for Chemical Attacks, By Richard Silverstein, Tikum Olam, 26 August 2013

And what of the UN mandate that forbade the inspection team from apportioning blame, should it be able to do that? Everything looks set to fail except the option to bomb.

Why the rush to war?

And ultimately, why the rush to war without even falsified evidence to offer until this late stage? Surely, if on the day of the attack the Israelis had released the information of an alleged gas attack by the Syrian government, it would have given the US and the UN, every (albeit twisted) justification to attack instead of relying on “belief” and “common sense” as Hague and Kerry both asserted?

I never thought I’d see the private intelligence arm of the US state, Stratfor utter the following but I think it’s another indication of a false flag plot gone seriously amiss that only an immediate attack on Syria could have masked:

Stratfor’s job is to analyze the world as objectively as possible, and the situation in Syria is among the most difficult we have seen. The problem is we really don’t know what happened. The general consensus is Syrian President Bashar Assad ordered the use of chemical weapons against his enemies. The problem is trying to figure out why he would do it. He was not losing the civil war. In fact, he had achieved some limited military success recently. He knew that U.S. President Obama had said the use of chemical weapons would cross a red line. Yet Assad did it.

Or did he? Could the rebels have staged the attack in order to draw in an attack on al-Assad? Could the pictures have been faked? Could a third party, hoping to bog the United States down in another war, have done it? The answers to these questions are important, because they guide the U.S. and its allies’ response. The official explanation could be absolutely true–or not. – Stratfor Email 28 August 2013

No wonder Stratfor is circumspect about the cause of the chemical attack. Worse, it’s even doubting the US government when it says, “The official explanation could be absolutely true–or not.”

If as Gareth Porter asserts, the US wanted the inspection team canceled because I assume, it didn’t want have to bomb them as well the unfortunate Syrians, then it follows that regardless of the evidence, the Empire had planned to rain death and destruction from afar on Syria, and had planned to do so since last year. And then it was presented with the perfect opportunity until those damn UN inspectors got in the way!

Waging war would avoid the embarrassing act of actually finding out what went on and as we know the victor writes the history. By the time cooler heads get to have a look at the facts, it’s all ‘history’.
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Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

Silver Surfer said: ↑

A lot of nonsense in the above post. First of all, the western powers would be very happy to see him dead, not in power. Secondly, the Syrian government did not used chemical weapons so far. There is not a single independent piece of evidence to corroborate that obvious lie. It is obvious that you have a hidden agenda here.

US-Israeli false flag gas attack unravels By William Bowles

28 August 2013 — williambowles.info

Commit a war crime to cover up a war crime?

This is where it all started: The Israeli intelligence front the Debkafile, which is the source of the story that implicated the Assad government and/or its military in the gas attack on East Ghouta and now forms the basis for the war on Syria.
DEBKAfile’s military sources affirm that, just as the Assad brothers orchestrated the chemical shell attack on Syrian civilians, so too did Hizballah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah set in motion the rocket attack on Israel. – ‘The sarin shells fired on Damascus – by Syrian 4th Division’s 155th Brigade – were followed by rockets on Israel and car bombings in Lebanon‘, Debkafile, 24 August 2013

Let’s try sum up what we do know:
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Hidden agenda? I say Assad bombed those ppl and gave I my view, whats "hidden"?

I dont understand if you deny there ever was a chim attack at all or if it was done by Assad,

Assuming we can agree there was, I didnt talk about the evidence that wasnt yet published to the public, I wrote on evidence from humanitarian organizations on spot that treated the dead and wounded and on motive.

Seems to me your main argument is that the ADDITIONAL info (by far not the ONLY info) came from Israel....., what kind of argument is "I hate you" ?

Silver Surfer · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

Hidden agenda? I say Assad bombed those ppl and gave I my view, whats "hidden"?

I dont understand if you deny there ever was a chim attack at all or if it was done by Assad,

Assuming we can agree there was, I didnt talk about the evidence that wasnt yet published to the public, I wrote on evidence from humanitarian organizations on spot that treated the dead and wounded and on motive.

Seems to me your main argument is that the ADDITIONAL info (by far not the ONLY info) came from Israel....., what kind of argument is "I hate you" ?
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That is the problem. There is no evidence whatsoever that Syrian government forces launched chemical attack against so called rebels. It's all propaganda at this stage. What humanitarian organisations? Rebels and jihadists dressed up as medical staff does not make them experts, does it? The only hatred I can detect here is your hatred for Assad. It's tangible. You have yet to provide a single piece of evidence for your claims.

MicrobeCleaner · Aug 29, 2013

At this point, I think it's ridiculous to believe Assad is behind this.

Why believe he did? Is humanity still that stupid? Even if Assad did it, won't we need to know for sure before? And don't we have to consider the alternatives?
Will we ever grow up and demand real justification?

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

Silver Surfer said: ↑

That is the problem. There is no evidence whatsoever that Syrian government forces launched chemical attack against so called rebels. It's all propaganda at this stage. What humanitarian organisations? Rebels and jihadists dressed up as medical staff does not make them experts, does it? The only hatred I can detect here is your hatred for Assad. It's tangible. You have yet to provide a single piece of evidence for your claims.
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I dont hate Assad man, in the last 30 years we had no problems from the Syrain border, true he supports Hizbi but we account Lebanon and Iran more than him for that, he didnt move a muscle in our direction when the uprising started and Im confident he wont now as well even if the US will attack him, more than that I and many Israelis taht I talked with prefer him over the Jihadists.

However, we do think he used Chimical weapons and it is supported by "Doctors Without Borders" and Syrian groups, the fact the syrians didnt allow UN inspectors there althou only a few miles away - because they feared for their safty was it ?, the vast amount of bodies and videos, and Israeli Intel,

Considering Israeli and many other countires really do belive Assad used it then morally its hard to look the other way, it was a US red line, perhaps a mistake by Obama, perhaps they should have only supported by weapons etc' but there isnt a greater offense in the world in the eyes of the international Sheriff (US).

Silver Surfer · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

... we do think he used Chimical weapons and it is supported by "Doctors Without Borders" and Syrian groups, the fact the syrians didnt allow UN inspectors there althou only a few miles away - because they feared for their safty was it ?, the vast amount of bodies and videos, and Israeli Intel...
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The part about UN inspectors is a blatant lie served by the mainstream media in order to gather support for the military action. Our politicians are brazen liars.

UN Admits It Didn’t Ask for Access in Syria Until Saturday

August 27, 2013
http://www.accuracy.org/release/un-admits-it-didnt-ask-for-access-in-syria-until-saturday/

John Kerry stated yesterday: “I spoke on Thursday with Syrian Foreign Minister Muallim and I made it very clear to him that if the regime, as he argued, had nothing to hide, then their response should be immediate — immediate transparency, immediate access – not shelling. Their response needed to be unrestricted and immediate access. Failure to permit that, I told him, would tell its own story.

“Instead, for five days, the Syrian regime refused to allow the UN investigators access to the site of the attack that would allegedly exonerate them. Instead, it attacked the area further, shelling it and systematically destroying evidence. That is not the behavior of a government that has nothing to hide. That is not the action of a regime eager to prove to the world that it had not used chemical weapons. In fact, the regime’s belated decision to allow access is too late, and it’s too late to be credible. Today’s reports of an attack on the UN investigators, together with the continued shelling of these very neighborhoods, only further weakens the regime’s credibility.”

On Thursday, Reuters reported: “The United Nations demanded Syria give its chemical weapons experts immediate access on Thursday to rebel-held Damascus suburbs where poison gas appears to have killed hundreds just a few miles from the UN team’s hotel.”

In fact, according to an exchange at a news conference at the UN today, the UN did not make a formal request of the Syrian government until Saturday and the Syria government responded positively the next day.

MATTHEW R. LEE, innercitypress at gmail.com, Matthew.Lee at innercitypress.com, @innercitypress
Lee covers the UN for Inner City Press. He just wrote: “Much is being made of the Syrian government’s delay in granting the UN’s request for its chemical weapons inspection team to visit al Ghouta.

“Inner City Press asked UN spokesperson Farhan Haq at Tuesday’s noon briefing when it was that the UN formally requested access to al Ghouta — on Saturday, August 24 or before? Video here [at 12:00].

“Haq read out a press statement from August 22, in which Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said a request is being sent. Then, Haq said, Ban’s High Representative on Disarmament Angela Kane ‘stepped forward with the request’ — on August 24, Saturday.

“It was granted the next day.

“Inner City Press asked again, was there any formal request by the UN other than Ban’s press statement, before August 24? Haq called this ‘semantics.’ But when Inner City Press asked Ban to respond to widely circulated press releases about a request being made to him, the UN says the actual request has not been received yet.”

He said today: “It’s like everyone is telling Syria to let the police in, but the police didn’t knock on the door. The Syrian government can’t fulfill a request before it’s made. We don’t know what Syria would have said if the request was done on Thursday, but Kerry’s claim that they Syrians delayed is without merit. This episode does not make one question the Syrian ‘regime’s credibility’ as Kerry claims, but rather that of the U.S. and UN.”

“Why was the UN so slow and sloppy? Why has Secretary General Ban Ki-moon not even stood up for the safety of UN personnel inside Syria? These questions remain unanswered.”
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GlobalCitizen · Aug 29, 2013

litwin said: ↑

what are you talking about? Iran will never bomb Israel or any other county in the ME. US/Israel support wahhabists only because they are against Iranian influence in Syria
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What are you talking about? Iran has bombed Israel daily for decades. How do you think that 10,000's of rockets and their associated batteries are positioned all along the Israeli border in Gaza and the Golan Heights? Do the Palestinians have rocket manufacturing plants just pumping these rockets out? If not, and clearly they don't, then how did those weapons get into Israel over the decades? And where did they come from?

I think it's time to acknowledge Iran's major role in the subversion of peace between Israel and Palestine. So much subversion that Israel is literally surrounded by rocket batteries that fire almost daily. So many rockets that the US has developed a high tech rocket defense system in Iron Dome, and has had to supply that system to Israel in order to secure the nation.

Imo, Iran has given more than enough reason to attack them, and that is without even mentioning their complicity in the killing of UN troops and civilians in Iraq and Afghan with Iranian made and logistically moved IED's, in yet another peace subversion attempt by indiscriminate killing in 2 more countries besides Israel.

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

Silver Surfer said: ↑

The part about UN inspectors is a blatant lie served by the mainstream media in order to gather support for the military action. Our politicians are brazen liars.

UN Admits It Didn’t Ask for Access in Syria Until Saturday

August 27, 2013
http://www.accuracy.org/release/un-admits-it-didnt-ask-for-access-in-syria-until-saturday/
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OK so perhaps that claim is false, what about the bodies examined by the humanitarian orgs and videos ?

Silver Surfer · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

OK so perhaps that claim is false, what about the bodies examined by the humanitarian orgs and videos ?
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There was a chemical attack. The figure was initially inflated. Bear in mind that some videos were released before actual attack happened. Absolute amateurs. As for who launched the attack all the evidence points to Jihadists.

WND EXCLUSIVE

Evidence: Syria gas attack work of U.S. allies

Contrary evidence arises as U.S. considers punishing Assad regime
Published: 3 days ago author-imageJerome R. Corsi About | Email | Archive

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NEW YORK – As the U.S. considers a response to what it calls a chemical weapon attack by Syria’s Bashar al-Assad regime that killed hundreds of civilians, reliable Middle Eastern sources say they have evidence the culprits actually were the rebel forces trying to take over the government.

Secretary of State John Kerry accused the Assad government Monday of covering up the use of chemical weapons in “a cowardly crime” and a “moral obscenity” that shocked the world’s conscience. Kerry claimed the Obama administration had “undeniable” evidence “that the Assad government was culpable in the use of chemical weapons on civilians” in the Aug. 21 attack in Damascus suburbs.

Reports that the Obama administration is considering a military strike against the Assad government continued to circulate Monday. Meanwhile, U.N. weapon inspectors in Syria were fired upon by snipers as they attempted to investigate the site of the Aug. 21 attack.

Assad has rejected charges that his government forces used chemical weapons as “preposterous” and “completely politicized,” the Los Angeles Times reported.

He argues Syrian forces were in the targeted area.

“How is it possible that any country would use chemical weapons, or any weapons of mass destruction, in an area where its own forces are located?” Assad asked in the interview with Izvestia, according to a translation provided by Syria’s official news agency and published by the Los Angeles Times.

“This is preposterous! These accusations are completely politicized and come on the back of the advances made by the Syrian Army against the terrorists.”

Rebel attack?

With the assistance of former PLO member and native Arabic-speaker Walid Shoebat, WND has assembled evidence from various Middle Eastern sources that cast doubt on Obama administration claims the Assad government is responsible for last week’s attack.

A video posted on YouTube, embedded below, shows Free Syrian Army, or FSA, rebel forces launching a Sarin gas attack on a Syrian village.
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Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/video-shows-rebels-launching-gas-attack-in-syria/#MkA7me8sY765dXUT.99

Bishadi · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

OK so perhaps that claim is false, what about the bodies examined by the humanitarian orgs and videos ?
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chems used is not the question.

Whether israel and the west are who supplied them to the occupiers, is the best question to consider.

Assad aint the one using them and the per se rebels are not syrians. Who would use them?

That is where i find that russia - china already know that answer and why they WILL NOT support the west. I believe that they already know which bad guys are doing wrong.

Ivan88 · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos speaks the democracy talk that Syria must be guilty because so many have bought the propaganda of the Israeli/Saudi/USA gangsters.

Syria has not attacked the Israelis. But the Israelis are attacking Syria via the fake Muslims rampaging around torturing and killing as many as they can, and by bombing Syria.

In 1954, the Israeli pulled off the first commercial airliner hijacking of a Syrian airliner.

Long ago, Laban/Syria and Jacob/Israel made a non-aggression pact. The Israelis are in violation of that covenant. (Genesis 31:44-55)
That the Israelis are anti-Christ is also a violation of the covenant, because the Gospel of Christ is central to the Covenant.

Gilos said: ↑

I dont hate Assad man, in the last 30 years we had no problems from the Syrain border, true he supports Hizbi but we account Lebanon and Iran more than him for that, he didnt move a muscle in our direction when the uprising started and Im confident he wont now as well even if the US will attack him, more than that I and many Israelis taht I talked with prefer him over the Jihadists.

However, we do think he used Chimical weapons and it is supported by "Doctors Without Borders" and Syrian groups, the fact the syrians didnt allow UN inspectors there althou only a few miles away - because they feared for their safty was it ?, the vast amount of bodies and videos, and Israeli Intel,

Considering Israeli and many other countires really do belive Assad used it then morally its hard to look the other way, it was a US red line, perhaps a mistake by Obama, perhaps they should have only supported by weapons etc' but there isnt a greater offense in the world in the eyes of the international Sheriff (US).
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litwin · Aug 29, 2013

dixon76710 said: ↑

According to Bin laden and Al qaeda, 9/11 had EVERYTHING to do with Iraq
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what do you mean?

litwin · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

I dont hate Assad man, in the last 30 years we had no problems from the Syrain border, true he supports Hizbi but we account Lebanon and Iran more than him for that, he didnt move a muscle in our direction when the uprising started and Im confident he wont now as well even if the US will attack him, more than that I and many Israelis taht I talked with prefer him over the Jihadists.

However, we do think he used Chimical weapons and it is supported by "Doctors Without Borders" and Syrian groups, the fact the syrians didnt allow UN inspectors there althou only a few miles away - because they feared for their safty was it ?, the vast amount of bodies and videos, and Israeli Intel,

Considering Israeli and many other countires really do belive Assad used it then morally its hard to look the other way, it was a US red line, perhaps a mistake by Obama, perhaps they should have only supported by weapons etc' but there isnt a greater offense in the world in the eyes of the international Sheriff (US).
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if "you "prefer him over the Jihadists, why could not your powerful lobby groups stop "war party" in Washington?

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

litwin said: ↑

if "you "prefer him over the Jihadists, why could not your powerful lobby groups stop "war party" in Washington?
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Why stop them ? he should get bombed, he should only be left with enough men to guard his Alawits and Sunni supporters, no more rebel cities for him, the rest for the FSA, or they can work something between them I dont care, he killed so many that he deserves to rule a mound and those that dont like it can move to FSA land.

litwin · Aug 29, 2013

alexa said: ↑

I am watching not worried for myself. You would have more reason to do that. I have heard how you have all been getting your gas masks!! Uri, you are trolling this thread.
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think for 1 second , wahhabi international has the CW + border with Israel ..is it sound dangerous ?

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

litwin said: ↑

think for 1 second , wahhabi international has the CW + border with Israel ..is it sound dangerous ?
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Depends...................are you holding a flashlight under your chin ?

litwin · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

Why stop them ? he should get bombed, he should only be left with enough men to guard his Alawits and Sunni supporters, no more rebel cities for him, the rest for the FSA, or they can work something between them I dont care, he killed so many that he deserves to rule a mound and those that dont like it can move to FSA land.
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what cities are you talking about? is Damascus one of them?

litwin · Aug 29, 2013

the stupid mad poodle lost, senx social media the British poodles can not manipulate electorate , like they did before

David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action...British MPs have voted to reject possible military action against the Assad government in Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.

A government motion was defeated by 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.Prime Minster David Cameron said it was clear Parliament does not want action and "the government will act accordingly".
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BBC

litwin · Aug 29, 2013

Canada doest believe in False Flag as well
[video=youtube;Zx6LUwC4OZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6LUwC4OZQ[/video]

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

litwin said: ↑

what cities are you talking about? is Damascus one of them?
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What about making Damascus a holy city capital to all 3 Syrian Muslim sects with UN governing it? yea, no reason it shouldnt work right

litwin · Aug 29, 2013

Gilos said: ↑

What about making Damascus a holy city capital to all 3 Syrian Muslim sects with UN governing it? yea, no reason it shouldnt work right
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"Christians represent 10% of the population"... and according your logic have all rights to rule this city

Gilos · Aug 29, 2013

litwin said: ↑

"Christians represent 10% of the population"... and according your logic have all rights to rule this city
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UN govern, they only live there.

litwin · Aug 30, 2013

US to continue to seek Syria strike support
Defence Secretary Hagel says US still building "international coalition", despite UK and Germany ruling out action.
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just wonder how will finally look like this coalition . USA, Albania, Kosovo, Saudis, banan islands

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/08/201383092454338355.html

litwin · Aug 30, 2013

The French president has said a vote by UK MPs against involvement in military strikes on Syria has not changed France's resolve to take firm action.

Francois Hollande said all options were being considered, and that a strike within days was not ruled out.
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wi a readi for war

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