Should mentally disturbed people be able to buy guns?

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    What is wrong with them?!!! Seriously mentally disturbed people should be able to buy firearms?? REALLY??

    What's going on here? Why would Congress do such an obviously stupid thing?
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Depends who has the power to certify someone as having mental disabilities. For example fifty or so years ago it was considered that homosexuality as a mental disturbance.
     
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    They could make mentally ill people get ID cards to buy guns but that's like having to show a picture ID to vote. If your ID has a picture on it that's racist by definition.
     
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    Congress should have nothing to do with it. If New York wants to enact a law banning all firearms so be it. Same goes for banning the mentally ill.

    I would say however that it's the enforcement of laws like these which is the issue: who determines if you are mentally ill? What happens in a private sale? Etc.
     
  5. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    W E A K !!
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Yes your position is very weak.
     
  7. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

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    I think not..
    Supreme court would crush it..
     
  8. Kode

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    So you're ok with buying across state lines to get around laws.


    Good point. So you're saying we need more and better gun laws to cover these things. I agree. I think the determination of mental illness is covered though.
     
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    How is the gun salesman determining the mental stability? Are you saying gun salesman get to breach your rights and violate HIPPA and receive your health status?

    Nice move Kim Jung Un
     
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    You are the one answering arguments with one word in capital letters...so I will let other posters be the judge of what is what and who is who.
     
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    Are we going off democracy standards (majority rules), like if the majority say liberalism is a mental disorder, can they not buy guns? Or saying that cause you're black, you have a mental disorder? Or low IQs? What about people who are depressed because of a death or divorce, and they see a shrink short term?
     
  12. Kode

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    You're not looking very . . . . ummm . . . . . . . . . . . . "informed". Look into it. This is all covered.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Ooh we have a banner..
    As many more gun laws as possible correct?
     
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    Giving us some idea of what you're upset about might enable us to respond more effectively.
     
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    And the right goes off the rails!!!!! :roflol:
     
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    You just TKO'd yourself..
     
  17. Kode

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    Does the name "Dylann Root" mean anything to you?
     
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    You’d have done better linking some relevant report of information about the legislation you’re referring to so you didn’t get as many uninformed responses.

    In general though, I don’t think the objections are about wanting the mentally ill to have firearms but about not believing the proposed system is the right one for determining who’s rights should be restricted.
     
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    Congress is not allowing "seriously mentally disturbed" people to buy firearms.

    Obama used the social security administration to try to identify people who may not be fit to own guns. It was a bad order for many reasons. First, it didn't involve Congress. Second, the social security administration has nothing to do with public safety or firearms restrictions. Third, it affect mostly old people, many of whom are perfectly capable of responsible gun ownership, but the social security administration has someone else doing their finances to protect them, because they're old and vulnerable. Don't you want old people to be able to protect themselves in their homes? I sure do.
     
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    I wish mentally ill people could not buy guns, but what is the definition of mentally ill? This would open up thousands of law suits if Americans were denied a purchase of a gun because someone determined they were mentally ill. Nobody wants to see crazy people purchase guns, and a lot of murders have been committed by mentally ill folks. I don't think either party will ever be able to agree on any type of gun control. On that same note, even though I believe in the 2nd Amendment, I think assault weapons should be banned. IMO,the only people who feel they need them are these survivalist end of the world doomsday vigilantes and of course the preferred weapon of choice for CRIMINALS AND DRUG DEALERS and TERRORISTS. The only people who should have them are law enforcement and military personnel. I know I will get attacked for making this statement, but I am a Republican and pretty much support everything on the right, but I like many others on both sides have serious concerns about this particular issue.
     
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    Buying guns across state lines is already illegal. And if you want to remove somebody's 2A rights, we already have a process for that.
     
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    I don't recall. Do you own a gun?
     
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    Almost.

    The problem is you've provided no real basis for debate.

    Saying "why do people want the mentally ill to own guns" is like saying "when did you stop beating your wife"?

    Of course, maybe that's the intention.
     
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    An ar15 is used by most if not all law enforcement personnel. It is considered a defensive weapon. Why does the name change to assault when I own it? And why am I not entitled the same choice of weapon as law enforcement? There isn't a cop alive whose life is more important than mine.
     
  25. Kode

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    Then the right way is to develop better laws and repeal what doesn't work if necessary to let the new laws work. Repealiong this mental illness restriction withy nothing better to replace it is obviously wrong.
     

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