Should mentally disturbed people be able to buy guns?

One of my wife's brothers is gay too.

The point is we can't let terrorist actions dictate the loss of freedoms.

Banning AR15's is the equivalent of shutting down night clubs and public gatherings to combat terrorism, and the resulting Patriot Act was a good reminder of that.

It sounds like a conspiracy, but I do not doubt for one second that many of these terrorists are allowed to come into this country because people who desire more governmental power can use it as an excuse to strip us of our rights.

With regards to an AR15, I have found it's the best weapon after testing many things for my wife and kids if I go down. They can handle it a lot better than any shotgun or handgun.

 

Socialist, marxist, fascist corruptocrats exert their power over the people with an iron boot. The people will defend themselves from tyranny. Due process is the ticket...

 

Absolutely not! The life of ANY American taken by a terrorist, know matter what race, sex or sexual orientation, in UNACCEPTABLE!

 

Point taken.

 

How's about asking if they should be able to vote?

 

I thought mentally disturbed people were already forbidden from buying guns.. as well as those with felonies, domestic violence convictions, restraining orders, etc. Why not just enforce the existing laws, instead of making hysterical claims?

 

It is already law, the democrats wanted it to be automatic for veterans that have someone else handle their finances.

 

Who doesn't have a gay relative, co worker, or friend these days? Many of them are good shooters, too. Some are conservative, patriotic Americans. It is just the liberal phony narrative like all women love abortion, hate trump, & are radical feminists.

+1 on the AR.. pretty tough to beat, as an overall shtf weapon. Weight, capacity, range, ballistics.. not many downsides with it.

 

I'm assuming that you are referring to the SSN admin directive that Obama tried to sneak past Congress. It states that anyone receiving social security that uses a 3rd party money administrator is unfit to own a firearm. So let's just assume because someone doesn't want to be bothered with bills, that they are Incompitite...Or maybe they are smart and want to enjoy their retirement.

You should learn to read about the issue, use critical thinking, and not react to the MSM stories.

As the old saying goes, "better everyone thinks you're a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it." Too late.

 

Mentally disturbed people should have a lot less privileges than they do now, but that's not stopping anyone.

 

Good god!! You had better tell us quick where these nasties are, wait though, they don’t hang around at the bottom of you’re bed at night do they?

 

Civil liberties matter to all of us, no one can argue with that, but many of the Rights or laws which were relevant over 220 years ago have no significance today including the ‘Right’ for civilians to bear arms.
There were many ‘Rights’ in the 1780s America that would never be acceptable today—the ‘Right’ to own slaves, the ‘Right’ of a man to acquire the property of his wife on taking her wedding vows and the ‘Right’ to deny the vote for women, do you want me to go on?

 

None of those were rights as listed in the Constitution. There is nothing in the bare bones Constitution (original Constitution with Bill of Rights), that give the right to own slaves, or to acquire the property of his wife or to deny the women the vote.

I have no problem with the mentally ill being denied owning guns, but the process to deny that right should involve due process, just like every other way people can be denied the right to own guns. You want to take away rights from people based on a doctor's word, without having a hearing? Would you put people in mental hospitals that way?

 

Oooooo....look....another thread posted by someone who only reads headlines!

 

Mr. Vman............I find many of your posts interesting & thought provoking. I enjoy your posts.
So I have to ask......
...........................what exactly are you protecting with an AR-15? It is a very nice weapon but are you expecting a home invasion
or a panzer division?

A 7.62 round could do a lot of damage to my neighbors. So I have Smith & Wesson Governors.
.410 Bird shot or XXX buck in one. Apc tailored rounds in the other.
That way, I would just have to replace carpet & dry wall in case of a violent entry.
And with a .410 round, one points in the general direction of the target and simply pulls the trigger.
If you ever get the chance, you should fire one sometimes.

 

No. Never heard of her. How about Tafsheen Malik. Know who that is?

 

Should black people be able to buy guns?

The mentally ill and African Americans commit crime at an identical rate as previously pointed out by Mod Troiiani and myself.

 

I've had 4 meth heads break into my home while I was there as a child one being a family member. All I had was an SKS without a magazine extension and 4 5 round clips.

Since that day happened I keep more than an SKS around for protection. Didn't like the reloading after 5 pulls in a CQB situation. All it took was 5, but if they would have contested that action with a firearm while I reloaded I could have died. Live and learn.

 

Yes, do.

 

Well there is that pesky Second Amendment.

That is indeed the crux of the argument. For example, were I in charge of determining mental illness for legal purposes, I may have to consider anyone who voted for Hillary Clinton to be mentally incompetent and thus ineligible to buy a gun... or operate a microwave for that matter.

 

You can go on YouTube and there are hundreds of videos discussing the ideal home defense weapon. The preponderance of the opinion among both amateurs and experts that I have watched or read elsewhere is that an AR-15 is the best for home defense for all kinds of reasons you can discover yourself. Among them are the ease of use, lots of easy to use optics for all kinds of purposes, magazine capacity and choices of types of ammo(e.g. 50g frangible) that will solve your concerns over penetration through walls.

Governors and Judges are popular, but at typical SD ranges of 3 to 7 feet, maximum of 15 (e.g. across a family room) the spread from the shotgun round of any kind may not be sufficient to preclude going through walls. Recoil on those may be difficult for women or young people to handle, they have limited ammo capacity. And there are lots of videos that test that issue also. The choice of HD weapon may be different than the choice for shtf. You may want to consider applications for both scenarios. In any case, there is a strong preponderance of opinion in favor of the AR-15 as the most versatile for any use.

But then you may get into lots of considerations for the type weapon(s) you possess. What for concealed carry? What for CC on summer days? What for the home? How many for the home (some recommend a weapon in every room as you never know when or from where a threat may come). What for shtf? What ammo types? How many rounds will you have in storage? How big should my safe be? How many safes should I have?

 

Well, a few things. First your Governor is pretty much useless, except against snakes. The .410 round in the rifled barrel produces an inadequate pattern, and doesn't penetrate well enough to stop someone. The AR-15 is a 5.56, not a 7.62, and with hollow point bullets, is a pretty good home defense round, as it's not nearly as penetrative as most pistol rounds (like the .45 LC). When I get too old and feeble to fire a pistol, I'm getting the shortest AR-15 carbine I can find for home defense. I can't imagine a better gun.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/5/26/the-ar-for-home-defense-one-experts-opinion
http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-14-rifles-shotguns-and-walls/
http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-41-the-taurus-judge-vs-the-box-o-truth/
http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-53-the-taurus-judge-revisited/

 

I would like to own one, not for self defense, but just to have it. Unfortunately, well, see the state flag in the upper right of this post.

 

If someone is too DANGEROUS to exercise their 2A right, then they are likely to be too dangerous to be loose in our society.

 

It's no problem in Ohio.


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