Trump's immigration policy could hurt U.S. farmers, but there is a solution...

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  1. Questerr

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    And the private prison industry and the judges and politicians they have bought would fight tooth and nail against it.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The sweet deal is breaking the law and then getting taxpayers to fund your entire existence not only room and board but free medical and the huge cost to keep your worthless criminal ass out of society.
     
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    How would that hurt someone's profits if their job is to pay a handful of prisoners to farm crops?
     
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    Yeah, what a sweat deal! No freedom whatsoever, (*)(*)(*)(*)ty food, constant threats of violence, no privacy, medical care that would be considered third world outside of prison. What isn't there to love?

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    If private prisons no longer have prisoners, how do they make a profit?
     
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    Drugs are not the only minor offenses that put someone in prison. And all drugs will never be legal. Some will be decriminalized, but there will always be illegal drugs- thus prisoners.
     
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    Not enough to keep private prisons in business.
     
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    That's a 50/50 guess.
     
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    No it's not. Private prisons make most of their money from keeping low level drug prisoners.
     
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    "If you can't do the time don't do the crime"
     
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    Yes, coke head and crack heads. Two drugs that will never be legal.

    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/dofp12.pdf

    This is in regards to federal prisons, so obviously private prisons are another story. However, coke and crack are the more serious problem with repeat offenders in any prison. That crap will never be legal.
     
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    Or you could dump the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim that prison is a sweat deal.

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    Why is your statistic solely concerning FEDERAL prisons?
     
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    smh. did you read it and then read the sentence you quoted me saying?

    . The prison itself isn't my concern, it's the statistic and PATTERN.
     
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    Only within the prison system. Have them work to make the prisons self sufficient, but when we start relying on prisoners to do low wage work, it creates too much of an incentive to creat more prisoners and lowers wages.
     
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    My apologies. I didn't see that part of your post.
     
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    It's a sweet financial deal and a work to pay for incarceration program would address that inequity
     
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    Losing all freedom and privacy and having a living standard that people in the third world would find barely acceptable is a "sweat financial deal"?
     
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    Room and board and medical care for doing nothing is indeed a very sweet financial deal
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*)ty medical care and (*)(*)(*)(*)ty room and board with zero freedom or privacy is not a sweat deal by any definition.
     
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    You are confusing an emotional deal with a financial deal. Financially speaking these criminals get a free ride and a work program to make them pay for at least a portion of what it cost taxpayers is a great idea
     
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    Unless you value freedom (which you don't).
     
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    Prisoners? LOL....they already lost that Questerr.
     
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    Correct, which is why it's not a sweat deal unless you think so little of freedom that losing it doesn't have value.
     
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    Actually, a sweeter deal is breaking the law & being able to afford a really good attorney. Then you don't go to jail.
    You have to wear a shirt & tie for that crime.
     
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    The premise that it will hurt farms is false anyways.
     
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    Yeah sure "Infrastructure Upgrade" elicits visions of Architectural Masters at work putting the answer to our infrastructure woes onto paper, but when it comes time to make these "upgrades" happen, someone is going to have to carry that bucket of bolts to the Fabricators who create the "upgrades".

    Of course, you realize that "carry that bucket of bolts" is a euphemism for "menial labor" and could range from actually carrying a bucket of bolts to say, driving forklifts. There is a good chance that there will be a large amount of unskilled labor opportunities available.
     

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