Well many of these young ladies are very well positioned to have rewarding careers as sugarbabies or girlfriend experience escorts in the future and I am sure that many will capitalize on their desirability. Which is fair enough. What I am concerned about is children. Maybe the solution is to rethink what a 'child' actually is. Us Roman Catholics and Jews consider our children to be Sons and Daughters of the Commandments at about 13 years. Us Roman Catholics are confirmed at this age and Jews have their Bar Mitzvah at about the same age. At this age the child is considered to be responsible for their own action before God. Now in most developed nations we can have sex with teenage girls at 16 years but cannot take or look at a picture of them naked. 13 is only 3 years away from 16. Now I'm not saying that the age of consent should be 13 or that a person should be considered to be a full adult at 13 but we can say that a 13 year old is responsible for their own actions and can make their own choices on most things. Here in Australia a 13 year old terrorist is treated the same as any other terrorist. What we need to protect young females from is exploitation certainty but we also need to accept that at about 13 children are capable of giving informed consent on most things and are responsible for their own choices and actions. Most of us have read or seen Lolita and I do not think anyone really disagrees with what I am saying. So yeah - if a 13 year old wants to wear a short skirt then maybe feminists are correct that they are old enough to make these decisions for themselves but like I said - at some point a skirt must become too short and a line does need to be drawn somewhere. That is all I am saying. And like I said, transgender students are free to wear pants rather than a skirt in this day and age in USA and Australia.[/QUOTE] What a load of horsepuckey...heck, 18 year olds are not capable of making good decisions all the time.....sounds like you want an excuse for sex with 13 year olds. NONE of which has anything to do with my post[QTE=FoxHastings;1066550595]"""""The school told its female students that their teenage female legs were distracting to the male students. """ These Aussies must be Muslims, blaming the women for what men might do. The ignorant, the weak, Those who FORCE girls to wear skirts: First they SEXUALLY OBJECTIFY girls by forcing them to expose their legs. THEN they shame them for ...wait for it!..... exposing their legs. It would be nice if the young women of today broke free, grew a spine and said, """If ya wanna see it you'll FIRST have to pay for it....""" This free stuff they're giving away, someday they'll regret not making a dime off it...[/QUOTE] It is ALL and ONLY and about controlling women, training them to do what they're told or they're sluts.....
When I was in school, K - 12, it would not have mattered if they had made everyone wear full length burlap robes neck to ankles and burkas or whatever, once the hormones kick in. I got yanked into the bushes plenty of times by those that wanted to show off, and after school, it was anything goes. I suspicion absolutely nothing has changed.
What a load of horsepuckey...heck, 18 year olds are not capable of making good decisions all the time.....sounds like you want an excuse for sex with 13 year olds. NONE of which has anything to do with my post[QTE=FoxHastings;1066550595]"""""The school told its female students that their teenage female legs were distracting to the male students. """ These Aussies must be Muslims, blaming the women for what men might do. The ignorant, the weak, Those who FORCE girls to wear skirts: First they SEXUALLY OBJECTIFY girls by forcing them to expose their legs. THEN they shame them for ...wait for it!..... exposing their legs. It would be nice if the young women of today broke free, grew a spine and said, """If ya wanna see it you'll FIRST have to pay for it....""" This free stuff they're giving away, someday they'll regret not making a dime off it...[/QUOTE] It is ALL and ONLY and about controlling women, training them to do what they're told or they're sluts.....[/QUOTE] Exactly. Most 18 year olds are not great decision makers but heck a lot of 50 year olds make bad choices too but the big thing with the age of consent is that physical and mental age are two different things. There are many many 13 year old girls that are more mature and capable of giving informed consent than a lot of 18 year olds and older. But the fact is that in most developed nations it is not illegal for an adult to have sex with a 16 year old which is a bit silly because of the fact that many 13 year olds are more mature and capable than many 16 or 18 year olds. Another factor here is that females are having their first periods and becoming sexually active earlier and earlier and I think that we need to consider reflecting this in the law. If a 13 year old can be responsible for their actions before God, and if the law can treat a 13 year old terrorist as being responsible for their actions and decisions then I think it is highly possible that we have gotten the age of consent wrong and it may need to be adjusted to suit the reality of modern times. That is all I mean.
WJV : """"Exactly. Most 18 year olds are not great decision makers but heck a lot of 50 year olds make bad choices too but the big thing with the age of consent is that physical and mental age are two different things. There are many many 13 year old girls that are more mature and capable of giving informed consent than a lot of 18 year olds and older. But the fact is that in most developed nations it is not illegal for an adult to have sex with a 16 year old which is a bit silly because of the fact that many 13 year olds are more mature and capable than many 16 or 18 year olds. Another factor here is that females are having their first periods and becoming sexually active earlier and earlier and I think that we need to consider reflecting this in the law. If a 13 year old can be responsible for their actions before God, and if the law can treat a 13 year old terrorist as being responsible for their actions and decisions then I think it is highly possible that we have gotten the age of consent wrong and it may need to be adjusted to suit the reality of modern times. That is all I mean.[/QUOTE] FOXHASTINGS : Just because some 13 year olds are capable making good decision does NOT mean they all are. In general 13 year olds are not emotionally mature even if they are physically mature... Sorry, but people who want sex with 13 years olds are Really Creepy psychopaths... Just because a 13 year old can commit a crime you think they you should be able to have sex with them ???!!?! Please don't respond to any more of my posts...... THE BOXED QUOTE IN POST 28 IS NOT MINE....
FOXHASTINGS : Just because some 13 year olds are capable making good decision does NOT mean they all are. In general 13 year olds are not emotionally mature even if they are physically mature... Sorry, but people who want sex with 13 years olds are Really Creepy psychopaths... Just because a 13 year old can commit a crime you think they you should be able to have sex with them ???!!?! Please don't respond to any more of my posts...... THE BOXED QUOTE IN POST 28 IS NOT MINE....[/QUOTE] Why do you not want me to respond? Are you afraid of the things that I say? According to the DSM ( Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders ) a person is not a paedophile just because they have impure thoughts about a hot 13 year old girl or whatever - to be considered to be a paedophile one must act on their impure and illegal desires. The DSM are the authority on this so there is nothing abnormal about wanting to have sex with hot 13 year old girls. There is nothing creepy about it at all. A schoolgirl fatasy is one of the most common fantasies that males have and it is totally normal. Now I am a law abiding citizen and I would not have sex with a hot 13 year old girl unless it was legal - and all am saying is that since young ladies are getting their periods earlier and becoming sexually active early then perhaps nature is trying to tell us to lower the age of consent. 13 may not be the right number - maybe it is 14 or 15 - but clearly nature is trying to tell us something so I think that we need to listen. Edgar Allen Poe had a 13 year old wife. It was common until not so long ago for men to take nubile young ladies as their partners. Now I see sex as a beautiful and wonderful positive thing and I do not see consensual sex with a 13 year old as a negative or evil thing. Do you really see sex as such a terrible negative thing? What harm could we do a young nubile lady by having consensual sex with them anyway? As long as there is no damage done or trauma inflicted on the young lady I really do not see a problem. And what I am saying is that adults are responsible for their own actions. That is all. [video=youtube;JAHA4Jh5jkw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAHA4Jh5jkw[/video]
I used to work in childrens services and I have done jobs like running vacation care centres for primary aged children as well as doing a lot of work in pre schools. Like I said I am a law abiding citizen and as the DSM says - having impure thoughts about children does not make you a peadophile unless you act on those impure thoughts. There is no problem with me passing a 'working with childrens check'. You could leave your child in my care with complete confidence. I am a very good childcare worker. Children love me. I think I know what your problem is - it is that Christianity has caused you to see sex as a negative thing that you should feel shame about. Sex is a beautiful and positive thing and no I do not see why consensual sex with a 13 year old would harm the child in any way. If a 13 year old girl wants to go on the pill should she have to ask her parents permission? Shouldnt 13 year olds make their own decisions about sex? I think that this is a topic that we need to think about and that is all I am saying. [video=youtube;-0Ao4t_fe0I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Ao4t_fe0I[/video]
Christianity hates the human race and nature. The fact is that early puberty for females is the "new normal" and clearly nature is telling us to rethink the age of consent. Who decided that a 13 year old cannot make their own decisions about sex? I think most would agree that if a 13 year old girl wants to go on the pill this should be none of her parents business - and it is nobody elses either. What does the word 'nubile' mean? - '(of a girl or young woman) sexually mature; old enough for marriage.' The world is confused and turning our backs on humanity hating Christianity will set us free. Nubile | ready or suitable for marriage by virtue of age or maturity/Collins
The elementary school in my area requires girls to wear 'skorts' for any skirt above the knee (looks like a short skirt but has shorts underneath). It is a public school. No uniforms just a dress code.
and it would seem you "love" children, knowing what you have stated here I would not want my children within a 1,000 yards of you. Actually that is hilarious, I am an atheist and have been for numerous years .. sex to me is not a negative thing when it is between two people who are capable of consenting ... a 13 year old is not capable of consenting regardless of how "mature" she/he might appear to be. Do you know the problems sex causes for young girls ,, obviously not. Increase in cervical cancer risk Psychological problems ie higher rate of depression, increase suicide risk.
Of course I love children. Why else would I decide to work in childrens services? I worked for many different childcare centres when I was a bit younger and I have done training and have a very good understanding child development and accepted modern childcare theory, so if you would like any advice with anything about caring for your children feel free to ask. Like I said I am a law abiding citizen and I also ensure that I have a good understanding of the regulations that I need to stick to as well as the providers policies - so your young children would be in very safe hands with me I can assure you. And the current DSM thinking is that there is nothing wrong or deviant about having an impure thought about a schoolgirl - which is the possible perspective to take on this since schoolgirl fantasies are very common and females have these fantasies as well - just look at how many females teachers get caught having sex with male students and getting sent to prison. Many nubile school students are physically mature and attractive and to deny that is not only dishonest but crazy. Of course people under the age of 18 can be sexually attractive. We all understand that even if some will not admit it. And it does not matter that you are a so-called 'atheist' and have been for "numerous years" , ( this is funny ) you have existed in a Christian society ( doesnt matter what nation - this is Christian earth right now. Muslin slave morality even worse ) that promotes slave morality so your ideas of sex are repressed whether you understand that or not. Now, according to law in Britain and many other nations a doctor can give the pill to a 13 year old girl without parental consent as long as they follow the Fraser Guidelines/Gillick Competency. Now if a young girl is able to understand what she has gone to the doctor to ask for then isnt she also capable of making up her own mind about her sexual partners without the help of her parents? If we were not living in a Christian dominated sociological times and conditions we may actually treat the young girl as though she were a person and not the property of the parent, state or insert agenda - and allow her to make her own decisions about sex and romantic relationships. In my opinion what the young person decides amounts to 'true consent' if she can comprehend what she is consenting to - which amounts to informed consent. Now I have no idea what kind of deviant behaviour you have been getting up to in your bedroom but like I said top me sex is a wonderful, beautiful and positive thing and like I said - I think that the progressive thinking is that a 13 year old girl should be considered to be a person and not property - and I do not think myself so above a 13 year old girl that I do not think that she can comprehend things like sex and love. How old was Juliet from Shakespeares Romeo and Juliet? Juliet was 13 years old. Society needs to stop being so patronizing and condescending to 13 year old girls and children in general because to suggest that a 13 year old girl cannot feel and understand love is actually outrageous. How dare we? How dare we? I do not have much faith in your cervical claims especially when we see that the medical community is having to rethink much of the advice they have been giving females for breast screening for example - and it certainly doesnt help young peoples minds to have to have to see plot lines in tv shows that watch that scare them about this type of thing. I remember Jennie Garth on Beverly Hills 90210 having a breast cancer scare during the height of the breast scare hysteria. And there are many variables not being considered as far as this sex before 16 increases rates of depression and suicide risk - what we need to do is start treating young people like people rather than property and we will see these figures you are concerned about improve dramatically. (google images)
Have you ever read Might is Right? Maybe you should. You have slave morality. Seriously. And it is Christian society that is to blame atheist. [video=youtube;wdotqKKjbm8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdotqKKjbm8&spfreload=10[/video]
i prefer nice girls who insist they shouldn't have to lie to me or let me miss my turn; simply for the sake of morals.
After reading these posts, just scary, wow......... Advocating / promoting immorality with minor aged children, an older person no less, and works around children, just wow....... How creepy !
Ha! I have never had sex with a minor. Law abiding citizen. And I had a partner the whole time I worked in children's services. And I said that 13 may not be the right number - but physically once the female has had her first period I think that she is ready for sex - and like I said Juliet was 13 and we should not act as though 13 year olds cannot feel love. In my opinion there is no such thing as so-called 'puppy love' and the feelings of a 13 year old are as valid as the feelings of any person. And I was thinking - what is a 'sexual' experience, because really it does not have to be physical. Say I am playing a Big Bad Wolf role play game with a group of 4 and 5 year old girls and they just love me scaring them as the Big Bad Wolf and me making them scream - and then when we finish the girls scream - "Do it again!" "Do it again!" Now was there anything sexual about the role play? Should something like that be considered a sexual experience?
So 4 is your limit? No, with your feelings you can't possibly have had a normal relationship with a mature woman, they would frighten you...... those 12 year olds are easier to impress.......
I didnt say the relationships were normal. What I said is that I had partners while I worked in childrens services, and I did. I did it for about 10 years or so and during that time I had two long term partners. Both were attractive and mature. And pretty easy to impress if you ask me. And they didnt frighten me. Now do you really think it is so easy to impress a 12 year old? I would put a lot of effort into planning my vacation care and after school care programs. Do know what - 12 year olds love bingo. If they are in the mood for it they love it. Bingo. Two fat ladies! Legs eleven! They love that. I was surprised that 12 year olds would enjoy bingo so much. I am a good caller but still.
I'm sure your relationships weren't normal ....and if they went with you I believe they were easy to impress......were they 12 or 13? Good bye.
And the 4 year olds are even more difficult to impress. It helps to know their interests. When I used to work in pre school with 4/5/6 year old girl the show Saddle Club was very popular and I used to sing the theme song with them - which is not really a song a childcare worker would usually sing during a group time. See I would go above and beyond to make sure I knew the girls likes and interests and this helps keep them impressed. I was a great childcare worker - like I said - children love me. [video=youtube;uihN3r092fk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uihN3r092fk[/video] edit - its a good song hey. Not a bad show either.
In Japan they sell used schoolgirl panties in vending machines. For your sniffing and wanking pleasure.
Creepy? I have no idea what you mean. And what society in history was so repressed that they told 13 year old girls that they cannot feel or comprehend love? Juliet was 13 years old. Do not ever allow anyone to tell you that a 13 year old girl cannot feel love just as strongly as the next person. There is no such thing as so-called 'puppy love' and to say that there is is an insult to 13 year old girls everywhere. [video=youtube;d0lgswGOgrs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0lgswGOgrs[/video] And are you an Elvis fan? Wasnt Priscilla 13 when they started their romantic relationship? [video=youtube;u9sRJ-eOHnc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9sRJ-eOHnc[/video] Do you have a problem with The King as well?
I met one of those chicks in a bookstore. She was the manager. I picked her up from the bookstore. She had a degree in literature and was attractive like I said. She worked as an English teacher towards the end of our relationship. Once I wrote her an erotic short story where she has a young highschool football player in detention. She loved it. edit - She was 25 when I met her I think. But yes our relationship was far from normal. Have a good one. Good debate. edit - Do you know once I took her to watch a highschool football game that some of her students were playing in. Some of them had asked her to come and watch them. It was really messed up. As we were driving out she was asking if the young boys get naked together when they shower after the game. And I said yes - ( I had played on that ground as a kid and knew that they had communal showers ). Im not so sure there was nothing untoward about her wanting to go to that football game. She actually asked me to take her this weekend when I was at her place. Pretty messed up really hey. She knew that I liked football. But she claimed that she didnt. If she didnt like football ( and she didnt. Blue stocking type you see ) then why would she want me to take her to a highschool football game?
Elvis Presley was no paragon of virtue, if he did get involved with a 13 year old, it does not make it proper. Based on many factors, you are a very ill individual, you would do well to consult a Psychiatrist, you well use techniques of misdirection and manipulation and choose your words quite carefully, however, there is a psychopathy present throughout, a sociopath does not relate to others in a normal fashion, or have normal relationships, your thread on converting to another religion is a very good indicator of problems you exhibit, classic textbook signs, this should be forwarded to the proper Authorities, you are skirting many legal issues involving your issues with under aged children, 13 year old females are not capable of consent, emotionally, legally, or in anyway in a decision making capacity, able to comprehend the gravity of making life changing mistakes. Finally, you as an older man, comparing the disparity of your age group, 30- 40, and 10 - 13 year olds, certifies the improper aspects of your predilections towards pedophilia, using past history of other pedophiles and quotes from literature of the past does not bolster your false position, it only confirms your sickness. There is a reason that the minimum age of consent is higher than 13 years old, even 18 is in many cases too young because of emotional maturity issues and mental instability inherent in the teen formative years. Seek help.
