Dissent and Democratic Reform in China

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Land reform comin' to China to quell dissent...
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    China to tackle dissent by amending land law
    27 Jun 2009, China on Saturday set out to tackle an important cause of political dissent, which is the heart-burning among farmers over forceful acquisition of their lands and poor compensation paid for it. The government admitted that land disputes were a "factor affecting rural harmony and stability".
     
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    Unrest in western China, Chinese want democracy...
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    China calls Xinjiang riot a plot against its rule
    Sun Jul 5, 2009 - China has called a riot that shook the capital of restive western Xinjiang region on Sunday a plot by exiled members of the Uighur people, after at least three people died in the latest eruption of ethnic unrest there.
     
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    I guess it's just a coincidence that yet again where there is violence in the world there are Muslims?

    I'm no fan of China or it's Communist government but I'm in no doubt given the Islamic track record across the globe of violence who started this one.

    Chechnya, Kashmir, Kosovo, Pakistan, Darfur, Palestine - wherever in the world there is war there is almost always invariably Muslims.
     
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    Muslims not happy in China...
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    Uighur protests inflame China's Xinjiang province
    07 July 2009 - Clashes took place in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region of China on 5 July, leaving at least 140 people dead.
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    China's Hu skips G8 to deal with Xinjiang riots
    7 July`09 - Chinese President Hu Jintao abandoned plans to attend a G8 summit in Italy on Wednesday, returning home early to deal with ethnic violence that has left at least 156 dead in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang.
     
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    al-Qaida gonna join the fray...
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    Al-Qaida to avenge Urumqi killings: Report
    14 July 2009, Al-Qaida has vowed to avenge the deaths of Muslims in China's Urumqi city by targeting the country's workforce in northwest Africa, a Chinese newspaper said.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    I would think the Chinese engineers in Sudan...
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    China warns citizens in Algeria of al Qaeda threat
    Tue Jul 14, 2009 - China has warned its citizens in Algeria about possible attacks from al Qaeda in retribution for a Chinese government crackdown in the Muslim region of Xinjiang.
     
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    Exactly, there is violence whereever there are Muslims. China has 55 minorities, why are the muslims only ones rioting? It is not simple riot and protests either, very clearly premeditated killings.

    I want to find out why are muslims more violent than the rest of people. Anything to read?

     
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    I don't think it'd be fair to blame their religion for their restlessness; that's rather discriminatory..

    Islam is a religion that has wide spectra of levels and it's always the extremists who make the news.

    It's just an ethnic clash, more or less bound to happen here and there. Luckily the chinese government could act appropriately and calm things.
     
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    Travis wrote: I want to find out why are muslims more violent than the rest of people.

    Uncle Ferd says, "They don't have baseball...

    ... so their version of it is loppin' off people's heads."
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    Ethnic minority officials active in China's politics: expert




    BEIJING, July 20 (Xinhua) -- Officials from ethnic minority groups are offered equal opportunities and play an active role in China's political affairs, said an expert from Liaoning Academy of Social Science (LASS).

    The country had about 2.8 million officials from ethnic minorities, said LASS president Bao Zhendong, himself a Mongolian, in an interview with Monday's Guangming Daily.

    Officials from different ethnic groups enjoyed equal opportunities in training and promotion, he said.

    Since 1978, the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC) had run annual training programs for local officials from ethnic minorities in Xinjiang, Tibet, Yunnan, Qinghai and Mongolia.

    Since 1990, ethnic officials in less developed provinces were offered posts in central government departments and more developed coastal provinces for about six months. This year, 131 officials took part in this program.

    Bao said Xinjiang had about 3,000 officials from ethnic minority groups in 1950. The number soared to 46,000 in 1955 when the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region was established, and was now estimated at 348,000, accounting for 52 percent of the region's total officials.

    In Xinjiang, about 86 percent of officials at municipal and county levels and 55.36 percent of officials at regional level were ethnic minorities, he said.

    While succeeding in their political careers, officials from ethnic minorities bore the responsibility to maintain ethnic harmony, Bao said.

    "They should set good examples as they have their reputation and influence among their own people," he said. "I noticed that many Uygur officials worked hard with their Han colleagues to protect common people and maintain social stability during and after the riot in Urumqi on July 5. They are admirable."

    They grasped the true nature of the riot, he said. "It is not an ethnic issue nor a religious one, but about the country's unity and people's safety."
     
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    then they'll complain that china is destroying their culture by giving them representative by their own blood...
     
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    Chinese steelworkers discontent with the status quo...
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    Thousands of steel workers clash with police in China
    Monday, Jul 27, 2009, Some 30,000 disgruntled Chinese steel workers clashed with riot police in protest over a takeover deal, resulting in the death of an executive from another steel company, a human rights group said.
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    Factory manager killed as labour unrest hits China
    27 July 2009, About 30,000 Chinese steel workers clashed with police over plans to merge their mill with another company, and beat a manager to death, a Hong Kong-based human rights group has said.
     
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    Surprisingly, one one died from it I believe.
     
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    The natives are restless...
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    Social unrest 'rising in China'
    Monday, 21 December 2009 - Despite economic growth, social unrest and crime is on the rise in China, according to an analysis by a Chinese think-tank.
     
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    it is doubtless chinese majority is erasing chinese minorities' cultures,especially languages.I'm Goetian chinese, the only acceptable language in government documents, schools,colleges and other institutions is Standardized chinese Mandarin (a variation of Pekingese ).

    yep of course no death execution comes to me if i insist to speak my mother language--Goetian. but those national laws and standards mean: no language is allowed but Mandarin.

    I have to take exams in Mandarin,i have to speak Mandarin in public.

    why should I? because the government tells people that any other language is low.

    i'm no fan of Muslims.
     
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    Eh, it's mostly private things; nothing the government need worry about. The ethnic tensions will die down quickly.
     
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    Opening up society to stem unrest...
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    Can Wen Jiabao reform the Communist Party of China?
    October 15, 2010 : A two-day plenum of the Communist Party opened amid calls for relaxing China's repressive one-party rule. Prime Minister Wen Jiabao has called for political change in recent months.
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    Wen inspiring debate with calls for reform
    Sat, Oct 16, 2010 - LIBERAL LEGACY:The Chinese premier was associated with two of China’s most prominent liberal reformers in the early 1980s — Hu Yaobang and Zhao Ziyang
     
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    If Mao Zedong thought like you, he would have made his Hunanese dialect the official national language of China.

    If Sun Yat-sen and Deng Xiaoping thought like you, they would have made their Hakka dialect (or Hakka language if you like to call it) the official national language of China.

    However, all the three great men looked beyond petty regional matters and focused on the good of the country in their decision on national affairs.

    Although Mandarin is the lingua franca of China, there are many other languages spoken in China, by minorities. It has been estimated to have more than 2400 different dialects in China.

    If all those dialects or languages are used together by the Chinese government, the Chinese parliament would become a modern Tower of Babel and nothing could be done to run the country effectively.

    If you are staying in your village all your whole life, you can do without speaking a world of Mandarin. This is the same if you live in any Chinatown in the USA. Nobody will force you to learn a word of English if you are contented with washing dishes or clothes for your whole life in Chinatown. Of course you would never become an official of the US administration, but you can still survive within the confine of Chinatown.

    Finally regarding your joke on “Goetlands” and “Goetian”, please refer to the link http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/in...-distinguish-variations-of-chinese-languages/
     
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    Un-freakin-believable. An apologist for the murderous, destructive policies of mao...


    ...un-freakin-believable...
     
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    China prejudiced against blacks...
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    China welcomes growing African trade, but not the Africans who facilitate it
    November 25, 2010 - By some counts, at least half the foreigners living in the Chinese trade hub of Guangzhou are Africans. Many face hassles ranging from visa expiration to police raids.
     
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    There's plenty of racism in China, just as there is everywhere else.
     
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    There's a change in the wind...
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    Some Chinese Dissidents See Subtle Changes Towards More Freedoms
    03 December 2010 - An awards ceremony will be held in Norway next week for jailed Chinese dissident, Liu Xiaobo, the winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize. Liu is a veteran of the 1989 Tiananmen Square pro-democracy protests in Beijing and one of China's most prominent rights activists. Our correspondent spoke recently to two other former Tiananmen Square demonstrators, who shared their thoughts about the peace prize and China's future.
     
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    Sounds like some gov't. officials gonna hang...
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    Large protest forms in central China
    Tue, Jan 03, 2012 - Thousands of protesters converged on a train station in central China, angered over collapsing illegal investment schemes that residents said the government had failed to staunch, according to news reports and a government notice yesterday.
     
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