Ron Paul's racist ties - has he done enough to separate himself?

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    Everyone Thinks Ron Paul is Right

    Former CIA specialist and contributor to The American Conservative Philip Giraldi had some interesting insights today into just how much headway Ron Paul and his message is making with a broad spectrum of Americans:

    “I had two interesting experiences over the weekend, totally unrelated to the non-event of Hurricane Irene, which only dropped an inch of rain on northern Virginia. On Friday I went to dinner with a mixed group consisting of the women who are in my wife’s quilting group together with their husbands. All of the men were in their late fifties-early sixties and everyone but me and my wife was an evangelical Christian… Two of the men have been prominent in local Democratic Party circles and the remainder vote Republican. All agreed, to my surprise, that the US economy is broken and that it is the result of the wars and globalism that have marched together hand in hand over the past ten years. They also all agreed, even when they do not support specific policies, that Ron Paul is the only honest man running for the presidency. Which is not to say they all would vote for him, but the approval rating was 100%.”

    Mr. Giraldi then moves on to day two of his weekend:

    “On Saturday we had a reunion lunch with the CIA Rome Station class of 1980. The last time the whole group was together was shortly before the 2008 election, when everyone but me and my wife indicated that they would be voting for McCain-Palin. This time around it was different… I was kidded about my Ron Paul bumper sticker but everyone was quick to add seriously that Paul was the only honest man running, that he had predicted the economic collapse, and that his message has been consistent. They even agreed emphatically when I quoted Paul’s pledge to bring the troops home from overseas on the day after he is elected. This is coming from Cold Warriors, mind you, men and women who spent careers doing without question whatever their government asked them to do. Again, no one said they would vote for Ron Paul but nor did anyone say they would not.”

    Giraldi concludes:

    “Which is all to suggest that maybe something is actually going on in the body politic, that people are willing to listen to Ron Paul even though four years ago they would have thought such an idea ridiculous. And he has a passionate base of supporters. Do you remember the scene in the Godfather where Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) sees a Cuban rebel die for his cause and realizes that the insurgents just might win? Recent opinion polls seem to be saying the same thing. Whether or not Dr. Paul can actually win the presidency, his ideas about the state of the US economy and Washington’s catastrophic foreign policy have reached the mainstream and are resonating.”
     
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    How many times must we explain this?. The racism is with the liberals and their support of affirmative action. In fact they are double racists since they want to persecute white people in the belief that blacks are too inferior to make it on their own.
     
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    The accusation that RP is racist has been thoroughly demolished... yet, a few morons are still out propagating this foolishness.

    In his own words:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CoQWAXuUyI&feature=related"]RON PAUL FORCEFULLY RESPONDS TO RACIST RUMORS - YouTube[/ame]

    Search youtube, you'll find all sorts of videos from just about every kind of minority talking about how RP is not racist.
     
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    Not everyone. Did you hear the round of boos from the Tea Party debate? Unfortunately, Ron Paul is not electable. I like him as well, but he'd do himself a better justice if he didn't run with the GOP. For the people that would actually vote for Ron Paul, being a member of either side loses him credibility. He will never be respected among the Republican media of Fox News and of course MSNBC will only support the Left. He'd be better off going the Ross Perot route. With the media outlets these days and the internet, he could add intense pressure on the Republican and Democratic Party debates to allow him in.
     
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    Was Ron Paul a Racist Dixiecrat (Democrat) as a 21 year old like 75% of the other Texas Whites at that time ?
     
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    I question how right he is. He seems to be very soft on illegals.
     
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    The only honest man of candidates.

    Quote, "This is a man who perhaps personifies Christian character and integrity, American patriotism, and family values more than any other public figure. Ron Paul is a committed family man whose marriage to Carol has lasted for more than 50 years. He is a lover of families and children. As an OB/GYN physician, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies into this world. His life demonstrates a commitment to life and marriage.

    Furthermore, Ron Paul's devotion to Christ is very personal and deep. Unlike many politicians (especially in the Republican Party), Ron Paul does not wear his religion on his sleeve. He doesn't need to. Anyone who knows him knows his faith is exhibited on a daily basis. His life and family are testaments to his Christian faith.

    Beyond that, Ron Paul's record in Congress is so unblemished, so honest, so full of integrity that it is difficult to describe. This is a man who actually takes his oath to the Constitution (an oath every congressman, senator, and President also takes--but then ignores) seriously. So much so that he has never voted to raise taxes, never voted for an unbalanced budget, never voted for a congressional pay raise, never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership, and never voted to increase the power of the executive branch of the federal government.

    In addition, Ron Paul has never taken a government-paid junket. Even though he is a 10-term congressman, he is not accepting a government pension. He also returns a portion of his office budget every year to the taxpayers. No wonder Ron Paul was declared to be the "Taxpayer's Best Friend."

    Now, how in the name of common sense can a man such as Ron Paul be hated? Maybe it is because he is a man of integrity and honesty. Remember, our Lord said that men who love darkness hate the light. And if there is a word that describes the Establishment in America today, it is DARKNESS.

    Name it: the establishment Democrat and Republican Parties, the establishment media, the establishment financial institutions, and even the establishment churches all seem to be run by people who exude the power of darkness. It should not surprise us, therefore, when a man arises who personifies the light of integrity and honesty, that the powers that be should hate him--and hate Ron Paul they do.

    Conservative Republican Ron Paul is loathed as much by members of his own party as he is by liberal Democrats. Even though he is the epitome of a Christian gentleman, Ron Paul is despised by Christians and pastors as much as he is by pagans--maybe more. The media despises him--especially Fox News. The so-called conservative Fox News celebrity Sean Hannity practically goes ballistic at the mere mention of Dr. Paul's name.
    Ron Paul has been categorized with the Ku Klux Klan, brothel owners, and Skin Heads. He has been called practically every name in the book. Conservatives and liberals alike rail against Dr. Paul in a manner never seen before in modern politics. Again, why does the Establishment hate him so much? I'll tell you why.

    The Establishment hates Ron Paul because his honesty and integrity expose the rest of them for the moral reprobates they are. Their own conscience cannot bear the sight of him. His very presence condemns them. Their personal greed and ambition cringe at the very thought of Ron Paul. If Dr. Paul became President, the Gig would be up! It would be Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday at Tombstone all over again. They know it, and they will fight like mad to keep their corrupt stranglehold on American politics.

    Another reason the Establishment hates Ron Paul is because he is a true American--and there are not very many true Americans left in Washington, D.C., these days. You see, Ron Paul has read and studied American history. He understands constitutional government. He knows what real money is--and is not. As historian and author Thomas DiLorenzo said, Ron Paul is a modern-day Thomas Jefferson. (See his column at: http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo137.html )

    Unfortunately, most of what we have in Washington, D.C., these days (in both parties) is a bunch of internationalists who cannot see past their own selfish interests. They are consumed with greed and power. They are slaves to Big Business and special interest groups. They are petty, shallow hirelings who care nothing for constitutional government, the principles of liberty, or the American people. To them, Ron Paul represents everything they hate: limited government, freedom, selflessness, humility, and integrity.

    Furthermore, Ron Paul is not interested in creating a world empire. Neither is he a warmonger. He would squash the burgeoning New World Order in its tracks--and the globalists ensconced in Washington and New York City know it.

    There is only one Presidential candidate who would bring a modern-day revolution to Washington, D.C., and it is not Barack Obama or Mike Huckabee. It is Ron Paul. Obama and Huckabee--along with the rest of the Democrat and Republican contenders--are only more of the same. The same Nanny State, the same unconstitutional laws and regulations, the same advances toward global government, the same attacks against individual liberties, the same arrogance, the same hypocrisy, the same social programs, the same back-breaking taxes, the same jack-booted federal police tactics, the same IRS, the same lobbyists, and the same corrupt Washington politics.

    That the Establishment would hate Ron Paul should not surprise us. It does not even surprise me that many pastors and Christians despise Ron Paul. (After all, many of them still worship at the altar of George W. Bush.) What is yet to be seen is, How will the American people receive him? His strong showing in Iowa surprised most of the "experts." I believe he will do even better in New Hampshire today. How Dr. Paul's campaign fares in future primaries is still to be seen.

    Should Ron Paul fail in his bid to become the Republican Party's Presidential nominee, I believe it is critically important that he continue his bid as a Third Party candidate. His campaign is more than a campaign--it is a movement. People by the thousands and money by the millions is pouring in, and it will continue to pour in all the way to the general election. It is essential that Ron Paul stays in the race all the way to November.
    Remember, when Abraham Lincoln won in 1860, there were four strong Presidential candidates, and Lincoln won with just 39% of the popular vote. With New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg seriously considering an independent bid for the White House, and if Ron Paul, likewise, runs as a Third Party candidate, 2008 could see another race with four strong Presidential contenders. In such a case, anything is possible--including a Ron Paul victory.

    The fact is, Ron Paul does not need the support of the Establishment to win. With God's help--and with the help of millions of fed-up and tireless average Joes--anything is possible. Anything.

    Here is another thing: the fact that the Establishment hates Ron Paul so much must mean that there is ample reason for ordinary people like you and me to love him!
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    Ron Paul's opinion represent the voice of most Americans. That's why he always won big in straw poll.

    But he has no chance. Because this country is a covert totalitarian. The election machine is controlled by the Feds. They will use all their resource to suppress Ron Paul.

    You seldom saw Ron Paul's winning news in mainstream media. They only report Romney, Perry or Bachmann. The ruling class have their own candidates. They regulate the game. You only learn Paul's news in Internet.

    The ruling class takes care for their own interest - war profit. They rule the country by controlled intelligence and media. They select politicians through rigged election and justify the election result through the fake poll done by media.

    Unless you reform the election system, the real popular Ron Paul will never have a chance.
     
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    Do you have any evidence to support this? Ron Paul is a creepy little weasel. He invokes the name of Reagan when it suites him, then trashes Reagan once his ad goes off air. Now he's saying if he doesn't win the GOP nomination he's going 3rd party to spoil the race. He's a creep. And most of his supporters are the occupiers.
     
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    ummm

    Barack obama has ties to racist groups such and NOI, NAACP and the Urban league
     
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    And then there is this:
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    But oh no, nothing to see here! Let's make a BFD out of an ancient news letter RP didn't even read, or Perry's racist rock.

    Obama associating with Black Panthers though?... nah, that's fine.
     
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    Military used to be considered as pro-right, pro-GOP. But it's Ron Paul got their votes, either in 2008 election, or in this one.

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    Ron Paul raises most campaign cash from military workers
    By Catalina Camia, USA TODAY #post-date-updated {border-top: solid 1px #E5E5E5;}

    Updated 2011-07-27 11:02 AM
    http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/on-politics/2011/07/27/ronpaulx-large.jpg

    GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul has said the U.S. should get out of Afghanistan and Iraq.

    By Patrick Semansky, APGOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul consistently has said that the United States should get out of Afghanistan and Iraq and that American military bases around the world should be closed.

    In this campaign, Paul is getting more donations from people who work for the military than either President Obama or any of the other Republican presidential candidates. That analysis comes from Paul's campaign and was confirmed recently by Politifact, the fact-checking project of the St. Petersburg Times.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communi...11/07/ron-paul-military-campaign-donations-/1
     
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    he published a newsletter that said order was only restored to los angeles after the 1992 rodney king riots, because blacks needed to go pick up their welfare checks

    he opposes the civil rights act

    and he's known to have connections to racist hate groups
     
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    I dont agree with Ron Paul on some things,especially his views on foreign affairs,but please lets not pull the race card.Only Liberals do that.
     
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    libertarians like paul are psuedo social liberals, especially when its a choice between their money and social liberties for minorities
     
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    if ron paul supporters think ron's racist newsletters shouldn't be talked about, they've got another thing coming
     
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    Of course you have a link to this newsletter so that we can see for ourselves?
     
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    You mean the ones that were addressed multiple time during the 08 Presidential Elections? Sorry that bit ended years ago and he himself denied ever being part of it nor does his message that he has voted/spoke of support that conclusion that he is racist.
     
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    a neo-confederate is a perjotative and bigoted term for someone that has a pro-confederate historical outlook on the war.
     
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    Why does Ron Paul need to repudiate these accusations. And still, it is not like he has thrown his support behind them like Obama has. Obama cheers their protest, they are apart of OWS and Obama support OWS gleefully.
     
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    Libertarians put the fiscal stability of the NATION above the whims and feelings of a few that think they were wronged. The libertarian would look at the McD ban in San Fran of giving a toy with a happy meal and laugh at those that bring it up. There is no need to stiffle a business because of a few people that THINK people go to McD just for the toy. Sorry, but my group that makes up 1% of the population doesn't take precidence over 100% of the country being free to do as they will as long as they don't indanger someone else.

    Libertarians are for personal responsibility. If you don't like they way a company or business treats someone, you have the right to NOT shop there. Especially in the age of social networking, someone getting a bad review because they won't sit blacks in the front of a restraunt would destroy that business in MOST places.
     
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    We all know you are going to bring it up until you get surgery for carpal tunnel.

    Oh and Noah's arc.


    So ignore the mans words for 30 years base his beliefs on newsletters he didnt write. That kind of logic only works for the extremely biased.
     
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    Ron Paul is not racists, that's an idiocy allegation of liberals who are afraid to lost the elections.Hussein Soutero and his "church" of Jeremia Whright are the true racists, but the political correct liberal mainstream "medias" want to avoid any discussion about.
     

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