Run, Evolutionist!

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  1. youenjoyme420

    youenjoyme420 New Member

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    most diseases are caused by specific SPECIES of micro-organisms. Or viruses. Technically a virus isn't alive, but they actually evolve faster (and interestingly, cause evolution of living things).

    I think you could even consider cancer as a form of evolution. Certain cells in your body mutate, and then outcompete your healthy cells for resources.
     
  2. Peter Szarycz

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    Virus, though not really lifeforms, incurr on average 1 base-pair mutation per 10,000 during a replication of their genetic material. Viral genome on average consists of about 10,000 base-pairs. So every time a virus replicates, the next generation consists of mutants. Bacteria would incurr a similar mutation rate, but they have the ability to repair mistakes made by their polymerases. Human genome consists of 3.4 billion base pairs, and eukaryote polumerases make perhaps 1 in billion replicative mistakes which are subsequently not repaired. So every generation, you will get a mutant, not just a recombinant.
    I did not look for a diagram to back this up.
     
  3. philxx

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    What? Bastards!
     
  4. philxx

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    Ok you really don't believe that do you?

    its not theory its Fact or a Law of Evolutionary Science.

    See Science is objectively based human thinking.Not like the Faith based non-think .

    before we get to even start to look at the validity of historically scientifically Lawfull Evolution ,lets examine 'Creationism or cretionism.

    definity not even theories in the scientific sence don't stand peer reveiw from them Scietists.and thats before we have presentation of proofs,then experimentation with a jumble of halftruths and psuedo-garble.

    Geology is a objectively based science that DISPROVES creationism ,Palentology as well see the word OBJECTIVE is the BIG word for creationists.
     
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    I believe you've radically misunderstood what GW wrote...
     
  6. philxx

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    No misunderstanding ,talk for evolutionary Science and go all the way ,Natural selection is not a Theory its a scientific LAW of Nature ,not just a Theory.Not Just an Idea .Its OBJECTIVE.

    See if you start saying that scientific Laws are just theories then that opens the dorr to all sorts of post-modernist nut jobs and their god nutjob creationist mates.

    They say'oh one theory is just as valid as another Theory so we are equal"and crap like that.

    The Evolutionary process of Natural Selection is not a Theory.

    Its a little more then a Good Idea.It has been Scientifically proven past tense.

    we have as humans conciously or unconciously been PROVING the Lawfull Nature of Natural Selection,for some 10 000's of years as humans we call it the Science of Animal Husbandry,humans Genetically Engineering and not realising it .

    Replicating the Natural Laws of Evolution and Not knowing it until Darwin.We used to call Evolution "God" when we were Ignorant. Thats before Darwin discovered and described thye basis of all existance of Life and everything else.

    What dosen't Evolve from something into something else ,Again ?????

    oh, Nothing and that dosen't exist.

    Gee,even the Theory about some unproved God ,is Evolving.

    Regressively down in its evolution but evolving never the less ,Evolutionary Science is Objective knowledge.
     
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    No misunderstanding ,talk for evolutionary Science and go all the way ,Natural selection is not a Theory its a scientific LAW of Nature ,not just a Theory.Not Just an Idea .Its OBJECTIVE.

    See if you start saying that scientific Laws are just theories then that opens the dorr to all sorts of post-modernist nut jobs and their god nutjob creationist mates.

    They say'oh one theory is just as valid as another Theory so we are equal"and crap like that.

    The Evolutionary process of Natural Selection is not a Theory.

    Its a little more then a Good Idea.It has been Scientifically proven past tense.

    we have as humans conciously or unconciously been PROVING the Lawfull Nature of Natural Selection,for some 10 000's of years as humans we call it the Science of Animal Husbandry,humans Genetically Engineering and not realising it .

    Replicating the Natural Laws of Evolution and Not knowing it until Darwin.We used to call Evolution "God" when we were Ignorant. Thats before Darwin discovered and described the basis of all existance of Life and everything else.

    What dosen't Evolve from something into something else ,Again ?????

    oh, Nothing and that dosen't exist.

    Gee,even the Theory about some unproved God ,is Evolving.

    Regressively down in its evolution but evolving never the less ,Evolutionary Science is Objective knowledge.
     
  8. Wolf Ritter

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    Define what you would accept as evidence of speciation?
     
  9. Wolf Ritter

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    No, it's a mechanism through which evolution occurs. In order for natural selection to be a law you'd have to demonstrate that evolution only occurs naturally when we know that we can induce evolution either through breeding programs or even through genetic manipulation. Evolution is a theory, a theory is a scientific model that is compatible with evidence gathered that demonstrates how a process works. Most people conflate a hypothesis with a theory. Evolution just happens to be a favored one of the uneducated because the process happens in nature over such a long time that most examples predate the scientific method, which is hilarious because I don't see many God botherers looking to test the theory of electricity by jamming a fork into a light socket or the theory of gravity by jumping off a cliff.
     
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    I'll get back to you in a 100,000 years.
     
  11. Wolf Ritter

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    You realize that this is simply a concession that you're engaging in this argument dishonestly and have no intent to change your mind even if evidence were presented to you? This essentially means you concede the argument as you will not define what is necessary to convince you.
     
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    Hahahahahahaha! Good joke.

    Oh wait, you were being serious?
     
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    A cat falling asleep and waking up as a dog!

    That's how creatards generally picture the Theory of Evolution meaning.
     
  14. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Oh, you don't have a combination of your parents' genes? You and your parents, and everyone else on the planet, are all 100% genetically the same?

    Do you see why we don't take your ignorant comments as good discourse?
     
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    Every person on the planet are the same specie. What point are you trying to make?
     
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    So what? Evolution is not only speciation.

    But you've been given examples of speciation and ignored them. You are being willfully ignorant, the worst kind of ignorant. You're chosing to not learn.

    And actually we have fossils of humans who were not our species.

    How about you pick up a book that isn't a collection of fantasy stories from 2000 years ago?
     
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    Hear ,hear Well said !

    Imagine the only book you read is the Bible ignorance must follow.And if they don't stop saying that it is the "theory of Evolution"and not the Scientifically verified Laws Of Evolution then I will start doing my lollie.

    Thats a 150years of applied observation experiment reasearch and Verification .

    Verses,oh we will call it a theory which is the same as the Creationist theory so therefore equall??????

    The proof of Evolution as Objective Law of science is the practice of science ,particularly in the field of biology but not limited to as all things in the Universe are Evolving into something else.

    The Sun for instance is presently evolving into a Red Giant and then a white Dwarf star.science can even predict the time span .More then just another Theory.

    We should ask if they do science in school anymore?

    Particularly in the unUSA.

    Capitialism is presently evolving into Revolutionary confrontation with the Working Calss .
     
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    Try reading some Behe or Schroeder's for a better take on my ideas of the direction mainstream ID should take. I have yet to find one found knowledgeable 'usual suspect' when it comes to ID/creation, that included both progressive or YO ID/creation. BTW, I tend towards being a progressive creationist. After you get back from the Google search it means some one that accepts most evolutionary and scientific theory, save from the question of origins.

    reva
     
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    Species don't need to evolve into other species to prove evolution. If one species crawled up out of the primal ooze, many species could have done the same thing.

    Btw, there is plenty of evidence of evolution withing species.
     
  20. Panzerkampfwagen

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    There are plenty of examples of speciation, directly observed, too.

    Every time the evidence is presented they just move the goal posts or declare it fake.
     
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