Is this a similarity between “moderate” Muslims and “moderate” Nazis, or not?

Either way, if we consider them as a monolithic group and lump them all together we can manage the problem of Muslim toxicity by restricting their numbers to 2%.

That isn't a big deal because NO ONE has an inherent RIGHT to come to the USA especially if they are a proven problem.

As having more than 2% of Muslims in a free society has been proven to be.

Six years ago Dr. Peter Hammond published a remarkable book which included a statistical study of the correlation between Muslim to non-Muslim population ratios and the transition from conciliatory Islam to fascist Islam. The stages are the same in 2011 but the demographics have changed to show an alarming progression. Many European nations and the U.S. are on the cusp of moving to a higher bracket. The demographics change but the story is the same. First comes the taqiyya and the kitman; then comes the Sword of Islam. Imam Rauf, the Ground Zero Mosque promoter, is the current master of taqiyya. He has gulled everyone from Bloomberg to Maureen Dowd of the NYT -- who fanaticizes over male Muslims. Expect doppelgangers of Khomeini for stage 5 and Islamic PEACE at last.

Stage 1. Establish a Beachhead

Population density à 2% (US, Australia, Canada).

Muslims are conciliatory, deferential but request harmless special treatment (foot bath facilities, removal/elimination of that which is offensive to delicate Muslim sensibilities - like walking dogs near Mosques).

Stage 2. Establish Outposts

Population density 2% - 5% (UK, Germany, Denmark).

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. A recent example is that of Sheikh Abdullah el-Faisal who is back in Jamaica after being kicked out of the UK. Sound harmless? Read on:

The dispatch, dated February 2010, warns that that Jamaica could be fertile ground for jihadists because of its underground drug economy, marginalized youth, insufficient security and gang networks in U.S. and British prisons.

Stage 3. Establish Sectional Control of Major Cities.

Population density 5% - 10% (France, Sweden, Netherlands).

First comes the demand for halal food in supermarkets, and the blocking of streets for prayers; then comes the demand for self rule (within their ghettos) under Sharia. When Muslims approach 10% of the population the demands turn to lawlessness. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any criticism of Islam results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam. In France which may be over the 10% range, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.

Stage 4. Establish Regional Control.

Population density 20% - 50% (Europe 2020?).

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.

Stage 5. Total Control, Brutal Suppression, and Dhimmitude.

Population density > 50%.

Unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels. As Muslim population levels increase and all infidels cower in submission there will peace at last. Dar al-Islam is achieved and everyone lives under Sharia and the Koran is the only word.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/05/the_five_stages_of_islam.html#ixzz3Pwzkdhze

 

This is clearly a failed idea.

The terrorist incidents in the US haven't come from having more Muslim residents - it has been a response to OUR actions overseas. OBL couldn't have cared less about the number of Muslims in America, for example.

And, you've made no argument concerning tying what's going on in other nations to root causes, populations, etc. upon which your diatribe depends.

 

Hahaha!

You don't get it.

Maybe you don't WANT to get it.

We need to keep Muslim populations in America restricted to 2% and no more if we want to prevent the kinds of violent and non violent Jihad that is inherent in Muslim populations greater than 2% in a free society.

What we have seen in America so far is the CALM before the storm.

What we have seen and experienced in America so far represents Muslims on their BEST behavior!

[video=youtube;FLKarYXjG4c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLKarYXjG4c[/video]

What will happen if their concentrations exceed 2% is even worse.

 

Never before in history has one civilization allowed large numbers of those who come from an alien, and immutably hostile situation, to settle deep within that first civilization’s borders.

Never before have the members of one civilization failed to investigate, and even willfully refused to investigate, or to listen to those who warn about, the consequences for all non-Muslims of the belief-system of Islam.

In history, the phenomenon of the Barbarians at the Gates is hardly new. Those barbarians lay siege; if they win, they enter in triumph. Should they lose, the advanced civilization survives.

But never before have the gates been opened, to an entering force that has not even been identified or understood. Never before have the inhabitants of the by-now vulnerable city made efforts not to recognize, or realize, what they have done, and what they have undone.

That demographic intrusion shows no signs of diminishing. The systematic building of mosques and madrasas, paid for by Saudi Arabia, everywhere in the Western world, helps to make the conduct of Muslim life easier.

Western populations have been trained to make much of “celebrating diversity” and “promoting difference” and constructing, on a base of militant but unexamined pluralism, an edifice of legal rights and entitlements. These rights, these entitlements, this militant pluralism are exploited by Muslims who do not believe in pluralism.

Nor do they accept the individual rights of conscience and free speech, the legal equality of men and women, and of religious and racial minorities, recognized, for example, in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Their current claim to support pluralism is based on the need to protect, and increase the power of, the Muslim umma, or Community, within the West, until such time as that umma no longer needs to pretend to have any interest in Western pluralism and Western values.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/01/fitzgerald-islam-for-infidels-part-one

 

[video=youtube;hrpZ3coT-Kg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrpZ3coT-Kg[/video]

Stage 3. Establish Sectional Control of Major Cities.

Population density 5% - 10% (France, Sweden, Netherlands).

First comes the demand for halal food in supermarkets, and the blocking of streets for prayers; then comes the demand for self rule (within their ghettos) under Sharia. When Muslims approach 10% of the population the demands turn to lawlessness. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any criticism of Islam results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam. In France which may be over the 10% range, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.


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[video=youtube;IH8FwjNWfNU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH8FwjNWfNU[/video]

Stage 2. Establish Outposts

Population density 2% - 5% (UK, Germany, Denmark).

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. A recent example is that of Sheikh Abdullah el-Faisal who is back in Jamaica after being kicked out of the UK. Sound harmless? Read on:

The dispatch, dated February 2010, warns that that Jamaica could be fertile ground for jihadists because of its underground drug economy, marginalized youth, insufficient security and gang networks in U.S. and British prisons.


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You've got zip, buddy.

You have no evidence. You even fail at your attempts to enlist the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy.

Beyond that, no, America is not going to start attacking the Islamic faith. There is zero chance of that, although we may need to weed out bigots who try.

Take off your white hood and go home.

 

HA!

Who are more bigoted, hateful and toxic than Muslims?

LOLOL

[video=youtube;tb-FEtktGGQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb-FEtktGGQ[/video]

[video=youtube;4RaKpf4Mhg4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RaKpf4Mhg4[/video]

 

Dearborn, MI An Emerging No Go Zone of Islamic Hate and Intolerance

[video=youtube;ZVvgrEm4FE4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVvgrEm4FE4[/video]

 

Well, you're giving it a good try!

The catch is you just don't have anything. You would need to divide the issues of our contribution to wars, problems of poverty and oppression, etc. from this notion of yours that religion is the source. And, you have not done that.

I'm tired of your stupid video stuff. They are single data points and no analytical ability is shown. You can not extrapolate from there to some problem with religion in general or a specific religion.

 

History says otherwise.

 

Just because it has taken us 15 years since 9/11 to get wise to the Jihad being conducted against us, did you REALLY expect us to STAY uninformed and deceived by your subterfuge?

We are on to you now.



[video=youtube;YjBDDC4wVxk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk[/video]

The Goal of Islam is to make all of humanity submit to Shariah Law.

"Every accommodation non-Muslims make for Muslims moves our culture, our beliefs, and our legal systems one step closer to Sharia law."

-- Bill Warner of Political Islam

 

So far, you've been clueless. And, your video stuff is just plain unmitigated assault on Islam - an assault that is highly deceptive.

For example, the fact that Mohammed's life included war does not make Islam political. What a crazy idea! It's like saying the story of Jericho or the defeat of the Midianites or the story of Moses leaving Egypt makes Christianity less of a religion and more of a statement of politics. We're confident that Moses, Joshua and the rest were outstanding generals. But, we're careful about how that affects our view of Christianity.

Beyond that, the misrepresentation of Jihad is classic tactic of those attempting to cast Islam in a bad light.

I am certainly NOT an Muslim (or a Christian, by the way), but this notion of fanning the flames of hate against a major world wide religion is a fundamentally destructive idea - destructive of America and America's values.

You really should be ashamed of these videos. They are totally corrupt, and you present them without comment from those whose religion is being denigrated - lowering this to the level of a smear campaign.

 

Its a tough situation for the Sexually permissive Western nations, because 10% of Islam means 100,000,000 radicals: women, children, and men, are a massive army confronting countries they now live inside.

The Gaza vs Israel situation has lasted 70 years now, and 90% of the muslim population voted for HAMAS.
Obama seems to realize that avoiding a fight with these radicals as much as possible is the safest way to keep them killing one another, Shiite VS Sunni.
That may be the only way to wait out a couple more generations and survive.

Zechariah 12:4 (AMP)
In that day, says the Lord, I will smite every horse [of the armies that contend against Jerusalem] with terror and panic and his rider with madness; and I will open My eyes and regard with favor the house of Judah and will smite every horse of the opposing nations with blindness

 

You should be ashamed to insinuate that videos showing the facts of Muslim violence here and around the world shouldn't be presented to help educate those you would try to deceive.

That's what the Je suis Charlie protests were about.

No to censorship.

No to intimidation by Muslims.

And No to Muslim terrorism.

I dare say that every single non-Muslim here would agree with me.

You are walking a thin line now that everyone in the world better understands the Jihad game you play.

2% and no more.

If you want Muslims to avoid prosecution, persecution or anti-Muslim backlash against their undeniable toxicity in America you should support the movement to limit Muslims here to 2% and no more..

See, Dr. Hammond's study indicates that Muslims are on their very best behavior when their numbers do not exceed the 2% level.

They are able to convince non-Muslims that they are moderate and lovely. And everyone gets along well enough other than in the heavily populated Islamic enclaves in America where Muslims far exceed the 2% local concentrations like in Dearborn, Mi..

Once Muslims grow to concentrations greater than 2% they become emboldened and they start exhibiting an inherent and unacceptable toxicity which makes them even more despised than they are now and by many more non-Muslims.

We all know that you are lying about being a Muslim, but I will allow you your little deceit...a veneer of respectability so as to permit you to continue your Dawah and Jihad in the open.

But know this...no one is fooled.

If you intend to keep out of jail and to keep your fellow Muslims happy in America it is best that you not be allowed to exceed the 2% levels.

That way you will be happier, we will be happier and you will avoid bringing undue negative attention to the Grand Jihad in America before the time is right for you guys to make your next move.

That way you can continue to walk around and proselytize and pretend Islam is not on a mission of conquest in America and we can pretend you all are just poor misunderstood huddled masses longing to breathe free.

Yes?

 

It does say to fight corruption in the land, and that's what being ruled by apostates (Shiites) can easily be considered to be. Too bad the Qur'an is not clear enough on this to stop these things that the "all-knowing" Allah would of course have foreseen. Would YOU have foreseen this Margot, if you had Allah's abilities? I would have...what about you?

 

Like Jesus (no non-Christians in heaven, apparently), like Moses (slaughtered thousands who had a different invisible friend than he had), and like David, Islam teaches intolerance of people of other faiths - big picture, that is.

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No it's Mohammad's fault for teaching them that totalitarian schemes are the way to go, instead of teaching democracy. I blame Mohammad.
Stop blaming the victim (America.)

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You win the post of the day award!

 

They do have one Qur'an, so basically they do indeed have one legal system. If they have varied legal systems, then it means that Allah did a lousy job of explaining his preferred legal system (which he certainly tried to do in the Qur'an).....so Allah is probably not actually "god".

 

The Islamic crocodile will eat you last.

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They are just following the teachings of the Qur'an and hadith, so can we really blame them? Or is Islam not a legitimate religion in the first place? Hmmmmmmmmm.

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Dude, you need to read Jihadwatch more, to see what's really going on. Pregnar gets it, but I'm afraid that you don't, my well-intended friend.

 

In Saudi Arabia which is the home of Islam, the Shia and Sunni get along pretty well.. Many Shia are merchants and others work in the oil industry.. Ali Naimi is a Shia.. There is a class distinction in some regards in terms of the Shia who don't work or go to school, but most do.

 

You're on a roll....keep up the good work.

 

Your basic problem is that you read rubbish like Jihad Watch and have no real experience of Muslims.

 

Ok, we've heard everything now....SAUDI ARABIA is being held up as a role model when trying to defend Islam! Holy crap, Batman! That's like holding up Hitler as a good role model when trying to defend fascism! Saudi Arabia SUCKS.

 

You have never been outside the US much less to KSA.. and there are lots of "experts" like you .. LOLOL

 

Try holding a "Je Suis Charlie, and I'm a Muslim" rally and see how few (if any) Muslims show up! At least evidenced by the fact that 800,000 Muslims protesting AGAINST freedom of speech, and way way way less (if any) did a similar protest in that city around that time FOR freedom of speech. "Up to 800,000 Chechens protest over cartoons of prophet Muhammad": http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...otest-cartoons-prophet-muhammad-charlie-hebdo

Mohammad had free speech KILLED: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad

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You couldn't even drive in the main streets when you lived there, because Mohammad hated women....end of story! Mohammad would be proud of the Saudis for following Sharia Law about as accurately as most all Muslim countries. Saudi Arabia is the homeland of Mohammad/Islam. Mecca is there. 'Nuff said.