Muslim Areas in London

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  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dunno - didn't watch it.
     
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    'No crime' before the Muslim Albanians immigrated? Now, why do I find that hard to believe?
     
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    Because it doesn`t suit your agenda.
     
  5. Goomba

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    Or because it is false, considering that "Official statistics show that immigrants are responsible for about half of the criminal activity in the country."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-19269891
     
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    The English are getting what they deserve. Let the Fuzzy Wuzzies pour it on.
     
  7. Stuart Wolfe

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    Shouldn't that be a HUGE concern for England in and of itself though?
     
  8. Goomba

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    The article's about Greece, but yes, especially illegal migrants.
     
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    It;ll be the latest incantation of Islam4UK, Muslims against Crusades. For those who don't know, they are a tiny radical Muslim group, rarely attracting more than 70 members at most to their marches and they've been doing this from time to time for a year or two now. trying to stir up anti muslim feeling. I know last year the people of London put up witty counter posters, but I can't find them.

    These people are best just ignored. They get a little fight every now and then with the EDL - keeps them both happy,
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was in Greece quite often. Athens thirty five years ago was considered the safest city in Europe, if not the world. You could walk the streets at any hour of the night, and wear all the jewelry in the world and not be fearful. That stopped when the Albanians came. Yesterday alone, two men were killed by an Albanian gang in one of the cities. It would be fine if they just robbed, but they are killing as well. What the Greek government has now realized is, that the criminals they send back to Albania are being given new passports, so they can re-enter without a record.

    Of course this doesn't mean that most of the Albanians are not hard working, and that the Greeks are totally honest, only that the Greeks have never resorted to petty thievery and/or violence. The people on TV causing the violence during the protests, were not Greeks. They were anarchists that had come in from other countries. This doesn't mean the Greeks are honest, far from it, but they like to satisfy their greed through their 'creative' bookeeping. This is why the country is broke today.

    London was also safe thirty five years ago. A person could walk through the park at any hour of the night, but that too changed ten years later. Again because of immigration. :frown:
     
  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes but it is a different kind of crime. For instance some one may have been gyped out of some money, or someone might have kept and sold an antiquity they found. Nobody said the Greeks are honest. Also they might have been involved in the shady deal of prostitution or illegal gambling, or even gone so far as to steal an icon from a church, but they are not entering homes robbing and even killing people. This is why the Greeks are so upset.

    Except for the Albanians who enter illegally with the intent of stealing, most immigrants are not to blame, since they were decieved by the human traffikers. I read one account of a person from Bangladesh and how he paid a large sum so he could be smuggled into Europe. He said they were being shot at when going through borders, and at a certain point the smuggler told them to give him an even greater sum, or they would be killed and their organs sold.

    His sister had to sell her home to give him the money, and then finally he arrived in Istanbul. There he was wined and dined and given fifty dollars. He was then told in which way to swim so he would turn up in Greece instead of Bulgaria. In all of this Turkey is to blame since the illegals are supposed to be sent back to where they originated from. The ones that manage to go to Italy, are sent back to Greece, but Turkey will not accept them back from Greece. Recently one of the EU helicopters patrolling the islands said that he had seen the Turkish police directing them towards one of the Greek islands. :steamed:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you'd hope, just a tiniest of fraction of Brittons, just a 70 people at the time? Ok... let's see now...
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    British schools increasingly are dropping the Jewish Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, according to a report entitled Teaching Emotive and Controversial History, which was commissioned by the Department for Education and Skills.

    British teachers are also reluctant to discuss the medieval Crusades – in which Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem -- because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

    British social welfare offices have banned novelty pig calendars and toys lest they offend Muslims. Workers in the benefits department at Dudley Council, West Midlands, for example, were told to remove or cover up all pig-related items, including toys, porcelain figures, calendars and even a tissue box featuring Winnie the Pooh and Piglet.

    In Nottingham, the Greenwood Primary School cancelled a Christmas nativity play because it interfered with the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha.

    In Scotland, the Tayside Police Department apologized for featuring a German shepherd puppy as part of a campaign to publicize its new non-emergency telephone number. The postcards are potentially offensive to the city's 3,000-strong Muslim community: Islamic legal tradition says that dogs are impure.

    The British Girl Scout Association has designed new uniforms especially for Muslims students, who had "issues" with the existing range of clothing.

    Muslim doctors and nurses in Britain are now allowed to opt out of strict hygiene rules introduced by the National Health Service to restrict the spread of hospital superbugs. The change was made after female Muslims objected to being required to expose their arm below the elbow under guidance introduced to reduce the number of patients who were falling ill, and even dying, from bacteria.

    In Oldham, a breastfeeding mother was evicted from a waiting room in city hall (aka a "multicultural" building) to avoid offending Muslims. British law allows nursing mothers to breastfeed in public.

    In Glasgow, a Christian radio show host was fired after a debate between a Muslim and a Christian on whether Jesus is "the way, the truth and the life."

    In Liverpool, a Christian couple was forced to sell their hotel after a female Muslim guest accused the pair of insulting her during a debate about Islam.

    In London, Rory Bremner, a political comedian, said that every time he writes a sketch about Islam, he fears that he is signing his own death warrant. Also in London, Scotland Yard says that Muslims who launch a shoe at another person are not committing a crime because the practice is Islamic symbolism.

    In Kent, police have been banned from asking for a person's "Christian" name, in case this request offends Muslims. The Kent Police Department's 62-page 'Faith and Culture Resource' guide tells officers to use "personal and family name" instead of "Christian" name.

    In East London, all elected members of Tower Hamlets town council were told not to eat during daylight hours in town hall meetings during the Muslim month of Ramadan. Special arrangements were also made to disrupt council meetings to allow for Muslim prayer. Meanwhile, the council renamed a staff Christmas party as a "festive meal."

    In Leicester, a gang of Somali Muslim women who assaulted and nearly killed a non-Muslim passer-by in the city center walked free after a politically correct judge decided that as Muslims, the women were "not used to being drunk."

    Elsewhere in Britain, a foster mother was struck off the social services register for allowing a Muslim girl in her care to convert to Christianity. Officials insist the woman, who has looked after more than 80 children in the past ten years, failed in her duty to preserve the girl's religion and should have tried to stop the baptism. They ruled that the girl, 17, should stay away from church for six months.

    In London, the Harrow Council provoked a storm of protest after announcing plans to offer Islamic halal-only menus in the borough's 52 state primary schools. Parents are outraged that meat prepared according to Islamic Sharia law is being pushed on non-Muslim children. Meanwhile, most of the in-flight meals on British Airways could soon be halal. The airline also says Muslim staff may wear veils, but Christian employees may not wear crosses.

    In West Yorkshire, an electrician working for a housing association in Wakefield was told he would be fired for placing a small palm cross on the dashboard of his van. His employer said the cross could be offensive to Muslims: "Wakefield and District Housing has a stance of neutrality. We now have different faiths, new emerging cultures. We have to be respectful of all views and beliefs."

    In London, a Christian employee at Heathrow Airport was fired for exposing a campaign of systematic harassment by fundamentalist Muslims.

    In Leicester, furious Muslims demanded that Walkers, a British snack food manufacturer owned by PepsiCo, demanded that the company change its packaging labels after it emerged that certain varieties of its potato chips contain small amounts of trace alcohol to extract certain flavors.

    Across Britain, Muslim bus and taxi drivers are telling blind passengers that they cannot bring their "unclean" dogs on board. The problem of prohibiting guide dogs on religious grounds has become so widespread that the matter was recently raised in the House of Lords.

    In Reading, one pensioner, a cancer sufferer, was repeatedly confronted by drivers and asked to get off the bus because of his guide dog. He also faced hostility at a hospital and in a supermarket over the animal. In Nottingham, a Muslim taxi driver refused to carry a blind man because he was accompanied by his guide dog. The taxi driver was later fined £300 ($470).

    In Stafford, a Muslim taxi driver refused to carry an elderly blind couple from a grocery store because they were accompanied by their seeing-eye dog. In Tunbridge Wells, Kent, a blind man was turned away from an Indian restaurant because the owner said it was against his Muslim beliefs to allow dogs into his establishment.

    In London, a bus driver prevented a woman from boarding a bus with her dog because there was a Muslim lady on the bus who "might be upset by the dog." As the woman attempted to complain, the doors closed and the bus drove away. When a second bus arrived, she again tried to embark, but was stopped again, this time because the driver said he was Muslim.

    In Britain, police sniffer dogs trained to spot terrorists at train stations may no longer come into contact with Muslim passengers, following complaints that it was offensive to their religion. Sniffer dogs used by police to search mosques and Muslim homes are now being fitted with leather bootees to cover their paws so they do not cause offense.

    In British prisons, radical Muslim gangs are imposing Sharia law on non-Muslim inmates, who have been forced to stop playing Western music, take down pictures of women from their cells and stop eating sausage. The gangs are also targeting non-Muslim inmates for forced conversions to Islam.

    In Leeds, more than 200 Muslim inmates at a high security prison are set to launch a multi-million pound claim for compensation after they were offered ham sandwiches during the month of Ramadan. They say their human rights were breached when they were offered the meat, which is forbidden by Islam. At the same time, Muslim sex offenders serving time in British prisons are asking to be exempt from a prison treatment program because the idea that "criminals should not have to talk about their offenses" is a "legitimate Islamic position."

    Meanwhile, Muslim prisoners in Britain are being given fresh clothes and bedding after sniffer dogs search their cells. The inmates say their bedclothes and prison uniforms must be changed according to Islamic law if they have come anywhere near dog saliva. Government rules mean prison wardens must hand out replacement sets after random drug searches to avoid religious discrimination claims. The dogs have also been banned from touching copies of the Islamic holy book the Koran and other religious items. Prisoners now receive special bags to protect the articles.

    At the same time, the British government has spent thousands of pounds of taxpayer money to rebuild prison toilets so that Muslim inmates do not have to use them while facing Mecca. Islam prohibits Muslims from facing or turning their backs on the Kiblah -- the direction of prayer -- when they visit the lavatory. After pressure from Muslim, who claimed they had to sit sideways on prison WCs, the Home Office agreed to turn the existing toilets 90 degrees.

    Muslims attending the 2012 Olympic Games in London were relieved to learn that toilet facilities at London's Olympic Park are being built so they will not have to face Mecca while sitting on the loo.

    Nevertheless, the 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan. In 2012, Ramadan took place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12. Muslims have asked for the games to be rescheduled.
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    I did not post the link, there's no need - most of these events were discussed on our very own forum. Still, if one of you question any of these events as not being real, I'll provide the source.

    Alexa, still think muslims in UK are best ignored? :)
     
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    What IS the source? Thanks.
     
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    I thought this was so silly you had to be joking but it turns out you were right!

    I was curious about this, so I looked it up and sure enough, there's an app for finding out exactly what direction Mecca is! So if anyone wants to know precisely which way to look while doing prayers - and which way to avoid when you need to use the facilities, I suppose - there you go.
     
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    The claim was about the time before lots of Albanians entered the country which is also before the economic crisis. Could be some Greeks have learnt something from the Albanians? Of course Greeks did and do commit crime however when I spent a long period in the country during the early eighties the country was famous for its very law abiding citizens and people did have very little concern about the chance of theft etc.
     
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    1. How do you know the man holding the camera is a Muslim?

    2. How do you know the guy shown in the video is gay?

    3. There's two people talking other than the gay guy in this video and neither of them sound like Muslim men.

    4. Since when is two a gang?

    5. The only person who even looks like a (middle-eastern?) Muslim I see in that video was the actual gay guy, himself

    6. The very same thing happens in the US. Only recently did we even allow them to marry, and that's a battle still being fought state to state...or is it these "Muslim-gangsters" don't do it as well as US citizens?

    7. If you believe this video, you're an idiot.

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    When Albanians first came here in 1990 they were after a religious ban by the regime that lasted for decades and behaved like animals because the regime had remove all their ability to chose , reason and use their logic , the problem was NOT their religion .

    You can never separate people on the base of their religion for example Afghanis are filthy animals while most people from Sidh are romantic and spiritual , those groups are same race and religion ! i see it as some cultures being incompatible.

    Islam was never a problem here because Athenians are themselves christian taliban and take demonstrations of islam as a personal insult. Immigrants here too rioted against that silly movie , like a crowd of 500 did and also burnt a car, smashed a couple of windows and thrown stones at the police ... ~600 people were deported inside the next few days .

    Personally i am a bit confused why you are scared of those dark ages leftovers.

    "the muslims are coming?" LOL
     
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    England was at its most dangerous in the late 1970's, early 1980's to walk anywhere at night. It is not a coincidence that football violence and mod/rocker violence and black/white violence was rife at the time, shortly followed by riots in brixton, toxteth and other places. It is much safer now. Immigration was low then. One crime that has increased is pick pocketing but that is not a violent crime.
     
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    I think we can probably guess that it's some kind of rabid Nazi hate site.
     
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    London wasn't "safe" and never has been. American funded IRA bombers were active in London throughout that time period. Things improved when they joined the legitimate political process.
     
  23. Stuart Wolfe

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    Well, I found confirmation about the one regarding Muslims needing to look away from Mecca while on the toilet from the Mail Online which doesn't appear to be a rabid Nazi hate site to me.

    I've found a basic rule of debate on forums is this: If the only way to argue a point you have is to change the subject completely, odds are you're probably wrong and/or that you're trying to deflect the debate away from a point that you know in too uncomfortable for you to face.
     
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    You're being naive again.
     
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    No, it's calling out the hypocrisy of the posts
     

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