Start Believing and Start Telling The Truth.

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  1. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    Lies started when Man started to claim a belief in God.
    Then everyone believes there was a God, including
    known person/s like Moses (10 Commandments of God)
    and Jesus Christ who claimed he was the Son of God.

    The world believes in this and claims a book (The Bible)
    to be the words of God.

    Until now these are the worldwide beliefs.
    There is God, God Communicated to Moses
    and sent God's son named Jesus Christ as the
    saviour to the world, the world that had sinned against God.

    That is why we cannot tell the truth, because the basis of our belief
    is purely based on lies.

    Start believing that there is no God.
    That Moses was making all those things up.
    That Jesus Christ was hallucinating everyday
    as he continuesly made a claim to be the Son of God.
    THat The BIble is nothing but a written history of how
    the past's wrong beliefs were unfolding.

    If one could start believing, then he/she can start telling the truth.

    Polscie


     
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  2. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Iggitory for you. Buh-buy!

    Poof!
     
  3. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    another proof of how Man continue telling lies.
    Porgatory?

    How did Man get into this?
    Because Man started his beliefs in lies.

    polscie
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    LOL, men learned to lie when they were living in caves and their mate asked, "Does this new skin make my ass look big?" Not the first time she asked... but after they were bonked on the head by her club, they invented lies.

    Seriously, your premise is silly. Much of the New Testament was written by men who WITNESSED miraculous events at the hands of Jesus Christ. You may not believe... but they sure did.
     
  5. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Who is "we" and "our" as in "our beliefs"?
     
  6. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    we=Man
    our= Man's
     
  7. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    until now you are one of those who keep on
    echoing historic lies.

    "miraculous events"....at the hands of this man named Jesus Christ.

    no wonder you cannot tell the truth.

    polscie.
     
  8. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Oh! So now you are the official spokes person for all of mankind? When did that promotion take place? Or should I have said,,, when did that usurpation take place?
     
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    BFOJ New Member Past Donor

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    Lies started when man listened to satan. Lies continue as YOU serve your father satan.
     
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    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    From what source does 'truth' come into being?
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    The witnesses wrote it down so you would hear about it, polscie. And it's still there in print after all this time. Just because you don't choose to believe it doesn't change the fact that it exists. Nor does it give your argument any credence since the Bible is the world's best-selling book and you're merely a poster on a message board... like the rest of us.

    One question, though. What does 'historic lies' mean? Have you found some way to travel back thru time and witness historic events with your own eyes or did you just find somebody's accounting of history you liked better than the accounting most of the world believes?
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ancient records reflect the basic understanding of the time within it is written. Besides the bible, there are any number of ancient records mainly set in stone. Some seem to depict deities descending from the sky. Many stories parallel similar biblical stories. If you want to discount the bible you might as well ignore all the ancient writings as well.
     
  13. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    I speak for myself and express it freely, independently and
    without the influence of the bible and the vataican.

    The moment a baby is born he/she earns the independence
    to make his/her understanding, viewpoints and conclusion
    to the world he/she has been exposed to.

    WE are force to believe in the claim of God*the bible etc because if we
    don't we cannot enter a school.

    when you say "I believe in God" you know you are lying to yourself.

    polscie.

     
  14. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I don't know where you live, but it sounds like a regional problem. No one is forced to believe in God in this country.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Exactly. If you don't believe in historic writings, how do you know men like George Washington actually existed? I mean, where do you draw the line?

    Atheists are so torn... they can't decide whether they HATE GOD, or THERE IS NO GOD. They live in a state of confusion. :(
     
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    Gee, it looks like someone was not very 'forceful' with you.

    So you believe that you are forced to believe in God, yet in the text above, you are attempting to make me and everyone else believe that I am a liar when I say "I believe in God". Personally, I would have to say that you are delusional... as I do not believe that you are an expert mind reader. If you think that you are and you believe that you know what I think, then go ahead and tell everyone what I am thinking after I click on the submit tab. Make it 100% accurate, else label your own self as a liar.
     
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    Hmmm ... I like these demonstrations of atheism's .... objectivity and rational ability.

    You see the premise here is ... atheist belief. That religion is a lie. Is there any proof to back this up? Of course not. Never is.

    However, we MUST take the statement of this youngsters faith as if it is unvarnished truth, for he is Crusading to free us from lies no less!

    And since we have already established, factually apparently, that everything we say is based on a lie and supported by a lie ... and we have done so without evidence ...

    Well, who claims that atheism is rational and objective? :bored:
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Calling something a lie does not make it so. And because you don't, or rather can't believe does not, and cannot take away what those like ourselves have experienced. For us to believe you is like someone that never knew you, telling you that your experiences were not real and that those years as a child growing up never happened. Would you be foolish enough to believe that?
     
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    Not that I want to derail the thread or keep polscie from getting the responses they asked for, but I have to know, what witnesses and writing are you talking about?
     
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    The only things atheists share is a singular lack of one particular type of belief. All similarities and unity end there. You'll have to find out on a case by case basis who is torn or confused or otherwise. Remember the bit about 'do unto others'? I'm fairly certain you don't want to be lumped in with the KKK and the Westboro Baptist Church when someone discusses your attributes or shortcomings.
     
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    It takes self-awareness to tell a lie while it takes much less to be tricked.

    So my guess is that man started to deliberately trick the mind of others, i.e. to lie, long time after the human mind was capable of being tricked.

    Religion is based on a mishmash of cognitive mechanisms. Some misfiring, others working under the influence of preexisting memes but all evolving gradually to make the human mind capable of the illusions we experience today. It doesn't mean we deliberately delusion ourselves, - some delusions we just don't mind. Literally speaking.
     
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    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    Great post SMW. I wish you had a sister that liked big strong, wise, lovin' hansum' geezer hillbillies (not you hillbilly you can get your own), like myself! I know that she would love the other things that I hold near and dear to my heart if she would be anything like you~

    Snif' well ....bogie likes me ~



    Rev A
     
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    You should study more.
    Scholars have determined that the gospels were not written by the namesakes given to them. Paul was not an eyewitness.
    Study to be approved.
     
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    Yes.... mankind created all words and YES mankind created all lies.

    There is no literature known to have ever come from moses pen (chisel) ever found on the earth. (if the ark is found, i bet the writing will be in akkadian)

    Since mankind is (are) from the 'garden' and it is 'our' father, then we are all sones/daughters of 'god' (mother nature itself), as ONE.

    The liars are what claimed mankind is separate from 'god' (the garden).

    The 'satans' are them liars


    And anyone who has any reading compehension already knows that is a lie. (how many writers wrote the bible? who cannoned the the gobblygoop of books? how many different 'versions' of the literature? Then how many 'gods' are there to bible....... if they are all 'words of god'?)


    not worldwide.............just certain monkeys in certain trees of beliefs.

    The majority dont follow the babble. Most already know jesus aint 'the' god and most every everyone knows moses didnt write a thing.

    ie... if moses brought ten commands on a stone tablet and idiots believe he wrote the first 5 books of torah, was it on stone too............... the arc must be hugenormous to hold all them 'stone tablets' just for 'genesis'

    False witness is the rube of mankind

    But to read up on the 'phenomenon' of the 'gods'...... nature is all of them.

    ie....mother nature itself, is god.

    we all eat of his body, sleep in his arms, breath his oxygen, the beginning and ending... the everything to all of us.

    and when mankind separated himself from the garden, he left the presence of 'god' (mother nature/existence itself), in mind (living in hell)

    who is moses?

    perhaps ahkenatan? (the beginning of monotheism)
    ezekial has god telling him he is 'the son'............ and jesus never wrote a thing (that was ever found of course)

    so both moses and jesus could have claimed and taught 'good material' but like anyone can see in these threads and from a ted haggart, liars are who abuse the good material

    old testament and new testament, even quran and many others, are combinations of material put together by people............... not a single 'god'

    learning and honesty held in the heart is where and how each can feel truth

    what is equal to all mankind is the first step.

    believing in magic and miracles is where idiots fail

    using honesty, compassion, empathy and LOVE is where the truth can be known and felt.

    liars and the followers of lies are men/women bound to BS by lack of personal responsibility ('evil' is the opposite of 'live')
     
  25. polscie

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    historic lies means that there is no God.
    histroic lies means that the claim of the belief in God is the product of
    a brain not fed with any intelligent information other than a gross ignorance
    and stupidity.

    polscie
     

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