Eugenics: the skeleton that rattles loudest in the left's closet

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  1. Goldwater

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    Oh that's just adorable......

    Are you familar with the term "gross generalization"?
     
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    Does the truth make yer butt hurt? :eyepopping:


    Is that whatcha mean by "gross"........ there: General?
    :roll:

    :eye: :fart:
     
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    You ever heard of Lake Desire?...used to live there, miss it too....and take it weasy with the emoticons there...
     
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    Ya mean Echo lake? Yuppers... I know the place.....

    I kinda like the little fellers...... :nod: :mrgreen:
     
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    I miss Seattle a great deal, if I could find work I might come back. I was part of that California invasion in the 90's.
     
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    I call it "God's country". LOL
     
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    "It is eugenics, the belief that society's fate rested on its ability to breed more of the strong and fewer of the weak. So-called positive eugenics meant encouraging those of greater intellectual ability and "moral worth" to have more children, while negative eugenics sought to urge, or even force, those deemed inferior to reproduce less often or not at all. The aim was to increase the overall quality of the national herd, multiplying the thoroughbreds and weeding out the runts."

    This passage reflects two of the less attractive traits of liberalism,
    a feeling of moral superiority and their close to control freak nature.
    More women are liberal than men and it is fairly simple to explain thier control freak nature (I was married).

    "Stop climbing in that tree! You'll fall and break your neck."

    "Don't play in the river! A crocodile will eat you."

    "Drop that pretty snake! It's a coral and wil bite you."

    If women weren't by nature control freaks our children would never survive till the third grade.


    I believe liberals and women tend to be right brain oriented. There's probably a biological connection.

    I'm still working on a theory to explain why nature would endow them with feelings morally superiority.:reading:
     
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    You are one strange mother(*)(*)(*)(*)er
     
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    You are aware that 'Nazism' was the National Socialist German Workers Party.
     
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    The Nazi's hated intellectual elites, liberals, and communists, basically all the things you acuse Obama of being.

    The Nazis hated anyone who had the potential to oppose Hitler, or even have an opinion. The only thing social about the nazi's was the fact that they targeted the disenfranchised groups in society.
     
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    No they hated intellectual elites, liberals and communists that disagreed with Hitler's world-vision. Just like liberal-socialist-Democrats today hate anyone who disagrees with their 'savior' Obama.

    Socialists hate anyone who opposes Socialism and have a deep abiding hatred for Conservatives. Like today, the Nazis used Socialism to sell a failed Utopian future vision.
     
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    Do modern leftists support eugenics?

    No?

    Are there any liberals in politics today who support eugenics?

    No?

    So is the OP just a silly conspiracy theory?
     
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    The people in America calling themselves Conservatives are not Conservatives. They are Christian fundementalist Fox News Tea Partiers.

    Goldwater, Reagan, Nixon, Bush1, and Bush2 were Conservatives.

    This whole Tea Partier bible thumper Fox News movement is something completely new, and bad.
     
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    I agree that Conservatives can be Christain, watch Fox and could be Tea Partiers....so what? Is there some law against that?

    Liberals can be secular humanist socialist communists, worship CNN and part of a so called 'movement' orchestrated by labor-union/government forces.

    Fox news was not created yet during your first 4 there.

    No...Obama is 'something completely new, and bad."
     
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    That is why gay activists of the type you mentioned will occupy a special place in my future gulag - cleaning the latrines.






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  16. Mr_Truth

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    Supporters of eugenics:

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    REPUBLICAN John Rockefeller


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    REPUBLICAN Prescott Bush


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    REPUBLICAN Clarence Gamble
     
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    Conservatives can be Christian or not. Conservatives do not agree with most of what they hear on 24 hour cable news. Conservatives resent the embarrasment the Tea Part causes, but embrace the concept of frugal government spending and andherance to the consitution in matters of fiscal policy.

    Conservatives can be secular humanists, and pro union.

    Fox News has shaped the media in freighteningly bad ways.

    Tea Party/Fox News Christians who vote Republican are something new, and bad.

    Obama is not new at all. He's no different than FDR, Kennedy, Carter, or Clinton....whether or not he's bad, remains to be seen.
     
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    Obama is not even close to FDR. Not quite what exactly you mean but he has a long way to go before he can be equated with him.
     
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    This whole thing depends on the criteria you're using to compare them.

    FDR and Obama are similar becasue they both got most of the union and minority vote, right after a Republican adminstration ended in financial disaster. Each of them in thier first 100 days in office proposed and influenced the passing of record numbers of legislation, and both had to deal with the fallout from bank bailouts. Both of them increased government spending amidst dramtically reduced tax revenues. They're both pro union Democrats who both had unemployment as thier biggest challenge.

    In what ways to you think they're disssimilar?
     
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    The Tea Party seeks to limit governmental power and reckless spending of OUR tax dollars. Only a liberal-socialist would be embarrassed at that.

    Not generally speaking because secular humanism is radical progressive and the large labor unions are socialist.

    How is it bad to have a news-media entity that presents another POV? We are bombarded daily by the pervasive Main Stream Media which is decidedly left leaning but purports to be 'objective.' The result is a bunch of fools who think Fox news is radical right.

    I see, so anyone who disagrees with the radical leftist Main Stream Media is somehow 'bad?'

    FDR started Socialism, Kennedy failed in the Bay of Pigs and messed up the Cuban missile crisis, Carter was a disaster and should be held personally responsible for the bad turn the ME has taken, Clinton personally wrecked the Israeli/Palestinian summit in 2000 which we are still paying for. Yes Obama is different........ he's worse.

    The subtitle for Obama's presidency: "Failed Socialism"
     
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    Then why is every Tea Party Caucus member in Wasgington babbling on about contraception this week?

    The definition of socialism is government ownership of all business, and the outlawing of private property. Look in the dictionary and you'll find that definition. Labor Unions don't even come close to being socialist.

    Eisenhower and Goldwater were secualr conservatives, are they radical liberal progressives in your opinion?

    Fox News is far right, and that successful business model has pushed the mainstream media to the far left in many cases.

    Having said that, Fox News, while bad and wrong, is nowhere near as bad and wrong as the people who allow it to convince them people on the left are homicidal nazi socialist unionized hippies bent on destroying America and taking guns away from all the white people.

    I didn't say that, and I don't defend the mainstream media...they are rapidly becoming as bad as Fox News, and MSNBC is already there.

    Raising taxes, which Obama hasn't done, or insitutiting healthcare reform, isn't SOCIALISM.

    so·cial·ism

    noun \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\



    Definition of SOCIALISM

    1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

    2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

    2b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
     
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    In 1932 FDR and the Democratic Party pledged a strong platform of reform. FDR forcefully pushed for these changes and used the Democratic party majority to implement these initiatives.

    In 2008 the DNC created a platform which said it would create ''change you can believe in". As part of it they said they would create health care reform. People like me voted for them based on this pledge. The vast majority of Americans gave them a landslide victory based on all those pledges. So what did we get? We got a watered down HCR that is virtually useless by comparison with those they have in Canada, UK, Europe, Japan, and Israel. Had it been FDR he would have pushed for genuine reform and done so fearlessly. He did the same for gold while Obama timidly spoke about foreign tax shelters - FDR would have extracted that sheltered wealth immediately and fearlessly. FDR created millions of jobs. Obama's bailouts gave lots of money to wealthy elites but only created a minimum amount of jobs. While it is true that Obama has brought about some change, more needs to be done in order to fulfill that pledge about "change you can believe in". His failure to do so is why he has been subjected to considerable criticism from the left while FDR got enthused support from them.
     
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    This is an excellent example of why progressives continue to try so hard to selectively interrpret history and warp public perceptions of the nazis. When people try to show opposing viewpoints, progressives say it does not even matter because it is just history. But then progressives turn around and start comparing conservatives to the "evil" nazis of the past.
     
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    Your dictionary seems to be different from mine. The Oxford Dictionary says socialism is advocacy of community ownership or regulation. Of course, dictionaries exist to record the usage of words, not dictate how words must be used, and although I'm sure there exists people who advocate complete and utter state control of the means of production, I am quite certain that the vast majority of 'socialists' only want certain industries nationalised.

    On-topic, though, it matters very little what some other left-wingers said or did before I was born. *I* didn't say or do any of it, so unless you have anything actually relevant, you can jog on.
     
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    Forum right wingers continually insist on calling libs or President Obama "socialist" while ignoring the fact that they are the biggest advocates and practitioners of Keynesian socialism.
     

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