Benghazi: A Desperate GOP Attack

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama has NO FRIGGIN' IDEA WTF the Obama Adm. is doing...at anytime, apparently. :roll:

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    Now THAT is FUNNY!!! :banana:
     
  2. Mac-7

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    And he gets away with it because obama voters are dumb and the lib press covers for him.

    Maybe a little less in the past two weeks but that won't last long.
     
  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's an example:

    Remember when Fox news reported back in October the two guys, Woods and Doherty, had wanted to assist but were told to "stand down"?

    Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11. Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods [and Glen Doherty – later deleted] was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ng-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2TStq0wLr

    Remember the big splash it made?

    But you didn't hear a word about in the Republican hearings, did you. Ever stop to wonder why?

    Well, to anyone who is at all familiar with Fox, this should have been a dead giveaway: "Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground..." Unnamed, unidentified sources that no one could check or verify, about a supposed "stand down" order supposedly given by some unknown, unidentified person to two guys who are now dead.

    If that isn't the biggest hint of the century that the story is probably bull(*)(*)(*)(*), you're drinking the koolaid.

    And as it turns out, Fox was flat out wrong on Doherty. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...2d152c6-2f99-11e2-9f50-0308e1e75445_blog.html He was not a mile away, he was 600 miles away.

    So when this indisputable proof that Fox's story was wrong came to light, what did Fox do? Did Fox make a retraction? A clarification? A notice? Nope. Fox just conveniently deleted his name from their story, without any notice of retraction or that their unnamed "source" had made a huge error.

    Just change your story and history. Poof. Its the Fox way when they've been caught in a flat out error.

    As to the rest of the story, the CIA and Pentagon both denied that every happened, and subsequent events prove Doherty was on a plane that sent in reinforcements. http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-denies-fox-news-benghazi-report-124552273.html. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...d5da68e-2437-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_blog.html

    No other major news agency picked up the story, just the RW propaganda mill, and high quality folks like Michele Bachman. http://factcheck.org/2013/03/bachmann-bungles-benghazi-food-stamps/ : http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...d5da68e-2437-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_blog.html

    Even Fox has dropped it like a hot potato, and, as mentioned, the Republican witch hunt didn't ask one question about it.

    Why? Why would the Republican inquiry into the events at Bengazi -- obviously out to smear the President and Clinton as much as possible, completely ignore this damning accusation that someone had ordered Wood and Dohergty not to assist the consulate when it was under attack and to (in the RW propaganda terminology of the day) "stand down"?

    Because the Fox story is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Fox fabricated the story, and when it was proved false, they just ignored it and moved on to the next fabrication. But the story is still there, misleading the ignorant and gullible conservative audience out there, because that is Fox's purpose. See for example: http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...i-desperate-gop-attack-25.html#post1062629680

    What do you think?

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    Obama posted the video on youtube and started the riots in Cairo and throughout the middle east??? :shock:
     
  4. rkhames

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    Just because the Democrats are running around saying the sky is green and the grass is blue does not make it so. There are some glaring facts that you and Sen Boxer are ignoring. The first is that Charlene Lamb stated before Congress that money was not a concern in security of the Benghazi Consultant. Further prior to the attack, there had been a Special Operations Group assigned to Benghazi. The General in charge of the SOG had told the State Department that they could keep the SOG indefinately, but Lamb told them that they were no longer needed. In case your wondering, that SOG is funded through the Air Force. Keeping them in Benghazi would not have cost the State Department anything.

    Another point. If what you and Sen Boxer were true, then why open a Consultant in Benghazi in the first place?
     
  5. jackson33

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    To my knowledge, not being privy to who gets droned or arrested overseas, the only person so far arrested was some US film maker, Obama and staff blamed for the attack in the first place. This was nonsense, you know it, but the guy remains in jail for some parole violation. If I were to argue a CAUSE, I'd suggest Mr. Obama bragging point over killing bin Laden, 4,382 times had a whole lot more to do with all the protest on 9-11-12 and that was one of many reasons the administration had to gloss over the real reason...



    Keeping in mind, those media sources that primarily cater to urban areas for an audience or monetary support, must satisfy that audience. While IMO, many acts simular to Benghazi, or the current IRS revelations have occurred and media in general ignored them to maintain that connection....
     
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    I know, real creative right? LOL
     
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    Only the filmmaker. Nope, not a single perp was brought to justice. Scumbag-in-Chief can't find any political advantage in getting them in jail or dead.
     
  8. Iriemon

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    Is that what Rush and Sean are telling you?

    Suspect arrested in connection with Benghazi attack

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...ested-in-connection-with-benghazi-attack?lite

    BENGHAZI, Libya—The Libyan government arrested four people Thursday in connection with the deadly attack on the American consulate Tuesday night as Libyan and U.S. officials mounted a manhunt for others believed to be involved.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443524904577649430397568466.html
     
  9. Dutch

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    No you haven't. No democrats attacked Obama before now. :)
     
  10. Ex-lib

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    Benghazi is a big deal. If you don't know it, you're not following the story, which is no surprise, since the mainstream media isn't being as honest about it as they are the IRS scandal and the AP scandal.
     
  11. Iriemon

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    "How did Obama jeopardize the lives of the actors in the video? "...... Huh? This admin put this video in the spotlight for the entire world and possibly other planets to see.. They pushed it, they damned it, they apologized for it etc etc etc. This video was nothing until this admin played it up as an excused as to what happened in Benghazi which was a BIG FAT POLITICAL LIE!!
     
  13. Iriemon

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    Complete nonsense. There had been riots in Cairo before Beganzi even happened.
     
  14. northwinds

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    Since when is my government lying to me about the deaths of four of our foreign service personnel at the hands of terrorists not a "story"........so you still think they were killed because of a movie trailer......that's what your President and Secretary of State told you........(*)(*)(*)(*)ing moron.
     
  15. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe your strawman mischaracterization of my posts and your baseless regurgitation of RW propaganda impresses others. Probably quite a few, based on reading conservative posts in this thread. Not me.

    But feel free to explain why not one question was asked in the Republican inquisition about the supposed "stand down" order Fox reported was given to Wood and Doherty.
     
  16. mngam

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    From your 2nd link....

    "In the U.S., Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denounced both the anti-Islam video and the violence in Libya that took the life of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans earlier this week. Emphasizing that the U.S. government had no role in the video, she called it "reprehensible" and said "we absolutely reject its content and message." At the same time, she said, there was "no justification—none at all—for responding to this video with violence."

    Thanks for pointing our what a POS Clinton is.
     
  17. Yosh Shmenge

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    Due to this Obama
    promoted video? I see no evidence for that.
     
  18. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK. I'll play. Let's see the proof that the riots in Cairo over the Islam vidoe was "due to Obama."

    (*)(*)(*)(*), you guys will blame *anything* on him. Just amazing.
     
  19. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is absolutely untrue. I have not lied about anything. The stated that their preliminary information was that this was a spontaneous event inspired by the video, because that was the essence of the initial CIA assessment memo stated. Although even from the very beginning they allowed that this could have been a planned attack.

    September 12, the day after the attack:

    "We're still investigating exactly what happened," Mr. Obama said. "I don't want to jump the gun on this. But you're right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt. And my suspicion is, is that there are folks involved in this, who were looking to target Americans from the start."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57584252/benghazi-timeline-how-the-probe-unfolded/

    Does that sound like something someone who you believe was running a massive conspiracy to lie would say if he was trying to show it was not a planned attack?

    When they had confirmation that it was a preplanned attack within a couple weeks, they said so.

    BFD. This is the biggest mountain out of a molehill since the birther nonsense.

    No one called for a "stand down." Don't be so damned gullible.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...l-investigate-benghazi-11.html#post1062633087
     
  20. Yosh Shmenge

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    No, no. You're playing the sophist again. I asked for proof from you that riots in Cairo were due to a little known video that Obama made famous by trying to hang the Benghazi attack on it.

    You have no proof, so that's a given and my question was largely rhetorical because I know you are trying to inflate the impact this two bit, little known video had in Libya. I just want to watch you attempt to justify your own worthless claim.
     
  21. Iriemon

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    OK, I thought you were blaming Obama for the Cairo demonstrations because you cut off your sentence.

    Riots in Cairo because of video: http://rt.com/news/cairo-clashes-us-embassy-013/
     
  22. BroncoBilly

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    Actually, your little mole hill is about to be drenched in fecal matter, because the (*)(*)(*)(*) did indeed hit the fan. Your timeline is not accurate irie, try this one:

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/05/0...rned-from-the-benghazi-whistleblower-hearing/

    1. There were multiple stand-down orders, not just one. Special operations forces were told, twice, by their chain of command not to board aircraft to Benghazi to rescue the Americans then under attack.

    So call your puppet master Obama and tell us who told them to stand down. Come on irie, why would you want Americans to die like that?
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

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    RT News? Do you have a more reputable source?
     
  24. BroncoBilly

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    There was no mention of a video when Hicks told Clinton about the terror attack, there never was a video mentioned except for Obama telling his lemmings that is the story.

    Why did Clinton do nothing after that 2 am phone call irie? Where was Obama? Oh yeah, campaigning
     
  25. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What the hell is "PJ Tatler" and why is it credible?

    But already addressed in my post above. There were no "stand down" orders given. Even Hicks doesn't say anyone was told to "stand down". The testimony of Hicks proves nothing. It shows that 4 soldiers who he says were willing to fly to Bengazi on a C-130 and were told not too by Special Forces Command. It does not say anything about why, much less provide any indication that Obama or Clinton had anything to do with the order.

    Why they were told to remain in Tripoli was explained by both Air Force Major Firman and Ambassador Pickering in my post above.

    It is a RW fabrication.

    Do you really believe that there was an order given by Obama to the military and Clinton to the DOS to not assist the people under attack in Bengazi, and that this is just some huge cover up involving Obama, Clinton, Air Force Major Firman, Ambassador Rice, Ambassador Pickering, Admiral Mullen, Special Forces command, the US military, the Department of State, and the CIA, to engage in a massive coordinated lie to cover up for the President's order to not assist people under attack?

    Is that what you believe?

    Use your common sense. Why on earth would Special Forces Command order those guys to stay in Tripoli if they thought they were needed in Bengazi?
     

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