Zimmerman Trial ~ (Monday July 1st)

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  1. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Here's what you missed. The Dr. testified that "hearing a boy" is invalid. That the best determination can only be made by people who know the entity, and have interacted with the entity, and know the sound of the entity in a variety of voice fluctuations.

    Which puts Tracy Martin's initial assertion that "it is not Trayvon screaming" right on the plate of the Defense.

    And the Dr. is now testifying that he is a member of other professional groups, to include ones he helped found, and which he says are credible, where folks accredited with these other organizations are likely to testify in favor of the Defense. Another win being set up for the Defense.

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    Already answered in my first post.
     
  2. UniquePerspective

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    Zimmerman wasn't just "walking in front" of Martin, though. Instead, Zimmerman admitted to pursuing him, even after Martin attempted to flee. If someone runs from me, and I give chase, they have the right to stand their ground against a perceived threat.

    Furthermore, it may be the case that Martin, being from outside the community was somewhat lost. Given the traumatic circumstance of being followed, it is quite reasonable that he believed his only option was to stand up against Zimmerman, not being quite sure where his father's home was. In fact, the recorded phone call indicates that Martin's behavior was consistent with a person that was not completely sure of his whereabouts. Zimmerman initially made comments indicating that Martin was looking around, and did not seem to have a destination. However, once Zimmerman told the police that Martin had detected him and began to run away, he could be certain the Martin's destination was away from him.
     
  3. exotix

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    No sweat ... West should be able to prove why somebody with a gun would be death screaming.
     
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    ok, I didn't even read the rest of your post after you got who was in front of who wrong.
     
  5. UniquePerspective

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    According to all reports, and accounts, Martin was traveling in a direction away from Zimmerman. The phone call to police also shows that Zimmerman continued to pursue Martin, even after he realized he was detected. There is plenty of evidence proving that Zimmerman pursued Martin, but there is absolutely nothing conclusive in the evidence that indicates Martin was ever pursuing Zimmerman.
     
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    Trayvon wasn't lost.. He'd visited the Retreat 4-5 times previously and was taking the most direct path home.
     
  7. SourD

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    Strike two, wanna go for three?

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    lol, you TM supporters can't even agree on the evidence.
     
  8. Eighty Deuce

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    This is false. Both participants voluntarily went to the area of the T. Secondly, you are incorrect in your use of the SYG statute.

    Not even the Prosecution is so stupid to make that case. Which, OBTW, they did not in their Opening. Which, OBTW, is where the Prosecution lays out the path by which they will prove their case.
     
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    Ok, West just called for the Dr. to now be a defense witness ... refused by the judge ...
     
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    of course she refused, they don't want to get more embarrassed than they already are. Doesn't matter anyway, his testimony doesn't help the prosecution in any way.
     
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    Do you understand the purpose of this testimony?
     
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    Wests' request was so far out of permissable procedure that it now shows defense desperation .... West wants this states' witness to be a ( defense) witness as hostile on cross ... as the state presents it's case ...

    In other words, West is now claiming this witness is biased since he doesn't prove those were Zimmys death screams ...
     
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    The Defense is setting this guy up to be a huge win for them. They may have to wait to actually recall him as their witness, as he had been listed as a Defense witness.

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    Incorrect. He was listed as a Defense witness from the beginning. That does not preclude the Prosecution from calling him, as either side can call any listed witness. But the Defense is looking to be able to now use him as their witness, as listed.

    Look at this "scenario" question now being allowed. Contamination. Witness bias. No blind test. Big win for the Defense !!!!

    Home run !!!!!!
     
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    It's highly unusual that a defense on cross would try to suborn a witness while as the state witness if also their witness ... as the example, all of the wtinesses so far are all Zimmys witnesses too ... whom the defense has tried to lead to bias in favor for the defense ...

    This is called misdirection ... very very dangerous strategy.
     
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    Getting scared I see. You should be. You and many others here support miscarriages of justice for your agenda.
     
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    You might want to go over to DonGlocks' miscarriage thread to beat your chest ... this testimony doesn't qualify that you can do it over here .... LOL.
     
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    Shut your pie hole..
     
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    I distinctly remember Zimmyheads beating thier chests about this witness ... now here' West claiming the science is a *fools errand* ... what a strange turn in events.
     
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    Looks like the all female jury will just have to leave it up to their emotions as to who was screaming.
     
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    I was waiting for this scientist to prove by sampling and varibles and scientific analysis that somebody with a gun would death scream.
     
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    Excellent Post, you summed it up nicely.
     
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    What was that Judge admonishment of West for interrupting the court ?
     
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    Ok witness excused ... let's go into recess for 15 minutes ..
     
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    Sheesh, 2 hours to get. If you know the voice, you are more likely to identify it on the recording. If you don't know the voice, you are less likely to identify it on the recording.

    Wonder how that's going to fit in with GZ stating in his police interview that he didn't recognize the voice.
     
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