What is your theory on why the USA has not been to the moon in the past 40 years?

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  1. purpledeegmblue

    purpledeegmblue New Member

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    So why have we screwed around with the ISS for so long? Was that not expensive?
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Not quite all survived.....
     
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    Xanadu New Member

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    The moon landings came from a president that did not submit to an elite that has gained power since 1913. An elite that has destroyed the American dream and all that came from it, JFK and the moonlandings were the top period.
    Since then the west was sold to China, India and Saudi Arabia, capitalism (evil) has risen, western civilisation and advancement has almost come to a stop, except on areas/branches were this system has advantage from, ICT (mass communication, big brother), media (msm propaganda) and oil/natural gas/nuclear (energy)
    People can't see tyranny (that has risen), but they notice that something has changed, and that things are turned upside down and lots of antagonistic.
    This is how powerful an ideology is, you don't notice until you start to compare things and investigate. The world around us has changed very rapidly since the year 2000, especially the cities world wide, they rose very much (at some points as you see in the Star wars movies, btw watch Sith, and see what happens in that movie, the change) This is were all the billions went, to the banks, oil companies, and so on, not to advancement you expect. This elite is dominating the world (again, like they did in Rome and Germany, empires) and their goal this time is world domination, or world empire. They need the power of the American people to reach their goal, 2012 is their big year (of gaining power), will be a bad year because elections are nearing.
    The people (the masses) have no idea were they are heading for, they watch television, listen to the 'new' newsmedia (propaganda) and watch Youtube clips (that has changed lately to very sombre and artificial, and those imperialistic colours, red, grey, black the German people also saw (red, white, black flags/banners in the streets), thats the psychological warfare they use), people can't see that they are heading towards an empire. Don't know anything about the 2500 year old (European) history. They are dumbed down by all the artificial programming and mass propaganda and politicians that lure them on their side.
    The 'theory' is very simple, the USA is becoming a 'European' empire. The so called (named by politics/politicians) 'American empire' will end, but what they do not tell you is that global empire will begin over the years post 2012, once they system has the power of the people on their side, their votes)
    Empire does not lead to a better country/world, always to war. First things will start to look better for a while (exactly what happened in Germany, the German people made a big mistake by giving their votes to evil), and a few years of happiness became a nightmare, empire and war. Do not expect real (rebirth of the American dream) change, and Mars landings soon (everything is antagonistic, this is the fundament of this dominating ideology that has turned the world/west upside down)
     
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    That one is easy, but not easy to accept. It is already occupied, by someone, or something, else. We are not welcome.
     
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    There is no strong military or commercial incentive to go to the moon. Once the accomplishment had been achieved, the desire for scientific research didn't have much weight. By this reasoning travel to the moon will require work on the moon and adequate reasons to invest in that work. Possible motivators would be mining (possibly using nanotechnology), the building of mass drivers for commercial and/or military purposes, and later the creation of a staging post for wider exploration and exploitation of the inner solar system. Building a proper space station (as opposed to the jokes currently in orbit) would also be a motivating factor for a return to the moon if it was financially and politically viable.
     
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    Plus, we're well-represented there through relatively low-cost robotic probes already. We don't need to send humans there right now. It would be a wildly expensive venture and might best be left to private enterprise in the future.
     
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    Eh...I guess the official story is that there is no reason to go, it would be expensive, cost to benefit ratio would be negligible at best, and dangerous.

    Personally? I wonder if they even made it there in the first place. Because really, if they left a flag out there, and some equipment, you'd think some guy with a telescope would have taken pictures of the landing site by now and made a calender of them.

    So really, why aren't there more pictures from other countries with awesome telescopes? You telling me that Hubble can see distance galaxies far far away with incredible detail, but can't check out what happened on the moon?

    Overall, as I look at it from a skeptic's view, it doesn't pass the stink test.
     
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    It would be any astrobiologist's wet dream to send a probe to Europa.

    It would only cost $4.7 billion -- a drop compared to what has been spent in Iraq and Afghanistan.
     
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    Hubble can see distant galaxies but they are actually quite big but also very dim. Hubble's true strength lies in its ability to focus on one area for a long time and gather more light to resolve very dim objects. Hubble's resolution at the distance of the Moon is about 200 feet per pixel at best. The best scopes on Earth don't have much better resolution. To resolve objects left on the Moon a scope would have to have a lens about as big as a football field. Nobody on Earth has anything near that.
    Resolution is determined by the Dawes' limit. You can do the math yourself and verify the above if you like.
     
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    The brightness of the Moon would burn out the delicate instrumentation as well.
     
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    I've heard some say that but Hubble has imaged the Moon. The images are out there. Not sure where that idea started.
     
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    Fair enough points both you and Oz bring up.

    So why don't we just fling drones up there? If we can fling one to mars, and then get data back, surely the moon would be much easier. But even then, I don't think people would buy it, they would probably just say its CGI now days. So really, I guess you'd need something more compelling than that.
     
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    We have sent drones up there. They have recently taken pics of all the landing sites and more with the LRO (lunar reconnaissance orbiter) and there have been other probes as well.
     
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    Link to this marvelous stuff?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lunar_probes#2000-present
     
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    Give me a break. Pictures are fakable...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY

    ...and they don't make the mountain of hoax proof go away.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&p=4001964&viewfull=1#post4001964

    The moon missions were faked.
     
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    Fakeable doesn't mean they WERE.....the moon missions were real,scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c.......

    And there is NO 'mountain of hoax proof',just your overwrought OPINION
     
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    You're trying to mislead those viewers who don't click on the link and read the info.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-...n-missions-were-faked-studio.html#post3989728

    The theory is that it's safe to go up to about three hundred or so miles because you'll still be under the Van Allen belts which block the radiation coming from space. The space station is under the belts.

    I urge all viewers who don't have time to look at the info to withhold judgement until you look at it. Don't be swayed by rhetoric.
     
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    The only one misleading here is YOU scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c

    Explain the feather and hammer trick from Apollo 15.
     
  25. Scott

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8
    What we saw wasn't live so there are lots of ways they could have doctored the footage. If the footage wasn't doctored, it could have been a paper hammer and a lead feather. They could have been on fine wires.

    It also doesn't make the rest of the hoax proof go away.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
    (2:35 time mark)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
     

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