It's over in Afghanistan!

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  1. Serfin' USA

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    It wasn't just Obama's strategy. It's basically a clone of Bush's strategy.

    Our foreign policy is largely apolitical, since our level of interventionism has remained consistent ever since the beginning of the Cold War. Changes in administration really don't seem to change much regarding actual involvement in the world.
     
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    Yes that is a great point. Which is also ironic when obama talks in (grand speeches) of focusing usa efforts towards 'peace' wth israel and palestine. It usually lasts for a few weeks before the Usa in the UN, vetos obama own proposals.

    It is surprising anyone believes the sound bites. I learned this, when the obama adminitration after all the speeches, promises to palestine leaders and people to then change his view to veto the state resolution. It was cunning lying on a grand scale which proves Surfins view of apolitical power games.
     
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    Oh! yes Hendrix is a Brit, even when he-she-it was a banker in Milan and all other kinds of made-up things too ...

    PeaceBeautyLove, Michael Collins, RoryMac, PatrickPearse, mendoza, Bonardi, TheGreatGatsby, Controller, whistleblower, chimera, mollywhacker and some other, rather whiffy by now, foot covers ...

    http://vanessaveselka.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sock_puppet_crazy-hair-opt362x385o00s362x385.jpg
     
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    Thanks. :) Still, it's not just us. While the U.S. is the most active defender of Israel, there are plenty of other nations who we're allies with who support Israel.

    But this isn't just about Israel and Palestine, it's interventionism in general. You don't really see that much difference between the political parties of a lot of Western nations when it comes to foreign policy. A lot of the world outside of the West also engages in their own military adventurism.

    I'm not saying it's right, but it's unfortunately the way of the world. Nature abhors a vacuum, and that's just as true with geopolitics as it is with so much else. China has its own strategy just like Russia does.

    America is the most militarily active power, but China and Russia can often accomplish similar things via trade deals. And supporting political movements via funding and arms deals is something every major power has a taste for.
     
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    That is why I would never say WE to describe UK foreign policy. Why do you use WE?

    Really weird.
     
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    It's just a figure of speech.

    Look, we do it with sports too. If my football team loses a game, I talk about it with my friends the next day in terms like "man, we really sucked last night."

    I guess there probably are some flag-wavers that delude themselves into assuming they have a personal connection, but most people I know just mean it in a figurative sense.
     
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    The average American would benefit much more by supporting the opposition in the fake wars that their controllers invent.
     
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    Supporting less intervention would be nice. Supporting insurgents, not so much.

    Radical Islam is a threat, but it's an overstated threat. Basically, we have to keep an eye on the Middle East and South Asia, but we shouldn't get as militarily involved.
     
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    A threat??

    In what way and to who?
     
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    I honestly believe this country will never leave the 5th Century..
     
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    Well, between the hijackings of planes since the 70s, 9/11, and more recent plots... isn't it obvious?
     
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    You serious?..
     
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    Are you saying God doesn't?

    Is it immoral to kill them except in self-defence?
     
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    Yes. It's something we have to keep tabs on, but it doesn't require more invasions to deal with.

    For example, invading Iran would be a huge mistake.
     
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    Agreed. All extremes are something to be concerned about, regardless of religion.
     
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    It's the 7th Century - and that is because that's what the Religion of Islam DEMANDS.
     
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    Such accusations sound like they came from the 4th century.
     
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    Was that Mississippi or Alabama that you had in mind?
     
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    Its just Big George , the US answer to our Boy George .

    Go for it Big Boy . If we had no rubbish , we would not need street cleaners .
     
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    Boy George.... isn't that that one foolish clown who tripped over his own feet and stabbed himself to death with his own dagger in the 3rd century?
     
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    Not really....as 911 was clearly a false flag attack.
     
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    Being from Alabama...I can promise you people wouldn't go on killing sprees if a couple bibles were burned by accident..
     
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    Iran having nuclear warheads and burning Koreans are two completely differnet issues..
     
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    Burning Korans is horrible, not just for the religious perspective. Anyone burning books is an idiot.

    With iran, if and when they finish their nuclear project (dependant on the russians completion of the nuclear reactors/technology) they will be amongst an elite group of nations who have the bomb.

    And since nuclear weapons have not been used for several decades, since the americans used it in japan then it is not a concern. What is a greater concern is the fear, propoganda and brainwashing of so many which is a bad reminder and a repeat of the iraq mess we all remember.

    Also, while the media obsesses over afghan and iran (nuclear projects) the russian tech goes un-noticed. If read the russian part of this forum, they have created tech missles to counter act usa stealth and their own bomber aircraft can bomb anywhere on earth. Add to that the usa military lunacy. The iran view to weapons is moderate.
     
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