...And Yes, Barack Obama is a Marxist

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    Obama has two daughters and according to you he is bi. Your daughter could very well munch the carpet according to your views on life.
     
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    Uh , no I'm a Conservative Nationalist Southern Baptist for Judaism ...:p
     
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    Or not , Not all women are like Pro Tennis Players...
     
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    The Wookie caught onto Reggie & had him banished ...
     
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    And prior to that Utopian-Socialism and Scientific-Socialism....all linking to the eventual communism, just attempting to do so without revolution. Attempting to convince the masses instead.

    Bottom up. And that is the central theme to liberation theology, as stated by them, and their chief proponents, for centuries.

    President Reagan at one point even gathered the hierarchy of the catholic church to warn them of liberation theology in the 80's.

    This is the ideology of Barack Obama, and why no one can pin "Marxist" glaring radical shifts of policy on him. The COIC (Community Organizer In Chief) does things from the bottom up.
     
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    Marx's bourgeoisie=Ubama's Jet owners, billionaires and millionaires.
    Pitting one class against another is straight out of the Marxist handbook.

    The one thing I can tell you is what he is not....a capitalist.
     
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    He is not going to abandon "The Struggle" either ...
     
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    Marx studied history, economics and philosophy. What do you know about, thicko?
     
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    The oppressiveness of what he formulated, just like billions of others, the dead and the ones still living in the oppression, brainiac. LOL.
     
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    I don't know why I continue to frequent this forum!! The level of ignorance and stupidity on display in this thread is astounding!! Not one right winger has come in, and made the obvious, undeniable, and objectively factual point that Obama is not in fact a Marxist. They haven't pointed out that the idea that he is, is insanely stupid. It is like the right wing in this county simultaneously all received lobotomies, so that they are no longer capable of even the slightest of complexities in their thought. Anyone who is even vaguely aware of what marxism actually is, and who is similarly even vaguely aware of what Obama has done since being president, is well aware that the idea that Obama is a Marxist is astoundingly stupid. Obama is a corporatist, just like Bush. That isn't a statement of fact, but it fits the evidence about 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than the idiotic Obama is a marxist nonsense that is so popular with the unthinking section of the American right.
     
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    A corporatist, yes. A statist, yes. A Marxist, no.
     
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    can YOU define marxism, and provide specific examples that make obama one?

    9 pages so far, and nobody is willing or able to do this. Really shouldn't be this hard. since you're all so sure and all.
     
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    Never going to happen, it's a fools errand.

    In other words, I wouldn't hold your breath, so far as I can tell the dolts around here prefer to remain ignorant.
     
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    Brilliant post, that.
     
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    'Guilty by association' is a singularly dumb conclusion. I'm friendly with a guy who did time for attempted murder; your logic puts me in the same category as him. Like I said, a dumb conclusion and the kind a 7 year-old adopts.
     
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    I agree. I've found that progressives and liberals are two different things. Progresives are statists that are hellbent on world government. Liberals don't support world government but are in favor of a lot of the same policies as progressives, but are strongly opposed to others. Obama is certainly a progressive statist. That's why so many liberals dislike him.
     
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    Friedman was a brilliant man. What monetary policy are you referring to that he was an architect of?
     
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    hmmmmmmm..... sound familiar?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism
    Capitalism according to Marxist theory can no longer sustain the living standards of the population due to its need to compensate for falling rates of profit by driving down wages, cutting social benefits and pursuing military aggression.


    No wonder the righties are going apepoopy about class warfare. The few that actually understand political science are scared spitless that their "defence" of capitalism appears to exactly what marxists want and as Marx/Engels predicted.

    Naturally, creating jobs, strenghtening entitlements, reducing military agression are all part of obama's maxist plan. But don't let truth get in the way of another bumpersticker slogan that the droolers know is bad,but can't for the life of them explain why.
     
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    Monetarism. Friedman's ideology written in Monetary History of the United States argued that the Great Depression was the result of monetary contraction. In that regard, he argued that "dropping money out of a helicopter" could work. This notion has become the framework for the policy mindsets of Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner. His ideas, while well intentioned, have been abused tremendously, as have Keynes' ideas.
     
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    And Little Rock.
     
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    It was also his notion, that if an active monetary policy should exist, it should exist where interest rates are set as close to 0 as possible. That notion played a major role in causing the recent economic collapse.
     
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    Makes as much sense as "And yes Gingrich is a Facist" Go to town with it!!!!
     
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    No, it makes much less sense. I could accept the argument that Obama or Gingrich are fascists, before I could accept that a corporatist centrist like Obama is a Marxist. I should clarify and say economic fascists, because I am certain neither are the sort of extreme nationalist slime that Nazis were. As much as I dislike Gingrich and Obama, neither is anywhere near as bad as a Nazi or any fascist for that matter.
     
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    Ideally, Friedman was against the Federal Reserve, and favored a free banking gold standard. He was able to convince Reagan to dabble at the possibility of a return to the gold standard. Unfortunately, he is best known for engineering the building blocks for detrimental monetary policies, most recently quantitative easing. Like Keynes, Friedman's theories have been abused by the government.
     
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    That's a very Austrian perspective, misallocation of resources as a result of arbitrarily low interests rates that resulted in a build up of long term goods (homes) when we really should have been making short term investments.

    Friedman, like Keynes and Marx have all had their ideas used for purposes that none of them would have supported. Shame the rabble here couldn't tell you one from the other.
     

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