Sharia Has No Place in America

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    Just to summarize.

    a) Sharia is not going to be imposed upon America
    b) That is because our Constitution protects us from such religious dogma.
    c) Muslims right to worship how they please is also protected by our Constitution.
    d) Persons- or groups- that break the law are subject to arrest and prosecution- regardless of their religion.
    e) There is a lot of fear mongery about Muslims right now- this is in the grand American tradition of vile propaganda against minorities that include Jews, Catholics and Mormons. This type of demogogary should be identified for what it is and rejected by patriotic Americans.
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    Maybe this has come from a Zionist Jew?

    Just wondering....
     
  3. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Perhaps but my parents sent me anti-Muslim hate propaganda from John Hagee and I understand that a lot of fundamentalist Christians are also propagating this hate propaganda. These groups are no better than Stormfront IMHO.
     
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    A fake Christian, Zionist shill.
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Self-destruction in action. :no: :roll:
     
  7. protectionist

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    That too few people will awaken to the culture war already long underway, making it all the more difficult to repair all the damage that has already been done, and is continuing presently.
     
  8. protectionist

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    Whether there is or is not specific legislation proposed, has no bearing on efforts to get Islamist laws passed. This begins simply with public protests, internal discussion, etc. I'll look into it though, but it might take a little more time.

    You should not find it ironic that lawsuits based upon the violation of our Constitutionally protected Rights are somehow undermining our liberty, because this is only what the lying plaintiffs claim they are. In reality, there is no Constitutionally protected right for Islam under the first amendment, because Islam is not a religion. The use of religion as a defense mechanism though is a ploy that Muslims have been using for 1400 years. In AMerica today, they are meeting up with their most fierce opposition to it, by protectionists who aren't rolling over for the scam, as people on other continents (most natably Europe) have done. Maybe we have more experience with scammers over here. :nod:

    Your defense of the ACLU is a joke, as is the American Civil Laughingstock Union itself. Funniest part is when the OH-SO-Concerned-About-Civil-Rights ACLU, broke all hypocrisy records when their leadership instituted a GAG ORDER on their membership (that they could not criticize their leaders) HA HA HA HA !! Oh man. That was too funny. End of the ACLU, and any credibility they ever had, after that.
     
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    Do your homework !!!


    1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

    2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer

    3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

    4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

    5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

    6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy

    7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

    8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry
     
  10. protectionist

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    Talk about a dodge !! HA HA HA HA. The retarded wouldn't be able to understand the items in the Quiz, but you would. But you're failure on it because you are ignorant of the material. We're talking about Islamization in this thread and you don't know anything about it. You don't know what you're talking about. Now go do your homework. You'll find it in Post # 309.
     
  11. protectionist

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    I was talking in the TOPIC (Islam), not China. You started taking about China. Bad boy. Stay on topic.
     
  12. protectionist

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    1. You might just look up the legislation proposal records of Keith Ellison and Andre Carson in the US House of Representitives for starters. That is, if your question is sincere. If it is, we'll be expecting to see a full report from you on what you found with Ellison and Carson. After all, you're the interested party, right ? Your question. Right RP12 ? Right ?

    2. Sharia is a way of life, not just law. Some of the "laws" of Sharia effect people in schools (faulty textbooks), universities (footwashing basins, prayer rooms), workplaces (Lina Morales), airplanes (the flying imams), public streets (illegal parking, traffic blocked), media censorship (Sum of All Fears, Danish cartoons), Stephen Coughlin, hala foods (McDonalds, Outback Steakhouse), murder (Theo Van Gogh, Fort Hood, 9/11), ban on piggy banks (Bank of Halifax, NatWest), the Sharee Council, etc.
     
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    Great we aer getting somewhere... Link these proposed bills.
     
  14. protectionist

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    Sharia law comes form people homes, workplaces, transportation facilities, media, schools, etc. It's a much wider thing than just bills passed in some legislature.
     
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    They've already done it, in many ways, in many places. Do your homework.
     
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    They don't need to do that. They just go to court, pretend that Islam is a religion, and hide behind the first amendment.
     
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    4th amendment is irrelevant here. Homeland security searches are not UNREASONABLE. They have a reason.

    Your inalienable rights. LOL. How you define "rights" and how others define them differ. Get it ?
     
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    How do you know what's going to happen. If/Whenever Sharia law becomes the full law of the land (above the Constitution), there won't be any Constitution to require 3/4 of the states, or anything else.
     
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    Religiously-based contracts are legal in America. That's what Shari'a law is in the majority of Muslim-majority countries, an alternate family code to French-Ottoman or Anglo-Ottoman civil code.

    We can ban Shari'a law when we ban the gett and covenant marriages. I don't think religiously-based law has any place in the American system. I know people like Tocqueville and John Courtney Murray would disagree.
     
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    Until the bigots, with time, organization, money, and political influence, abolish that Constitution, and insert Sharia law in its place. From then on, discriminating against people (and executing them) based on their religion, will be the law of the land.
     
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    Do you really think it will? I mean, honestly, in your heart of hearts do you REALLY see Islam as that big of a threat that it will destroy our institutions and way of life?

    Irish-Catholics at one point were 25% of the population and they didn't impose Papal law on the states. We even had a Catholic president and he didn't step aside for the Pope to take over.

    I highly recommend this book because the same arguments you use were rehashed all throughout American history and it didn't result in our institutions being upended in favor of religious law. http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Wars-...8&qid=1352425788&sr=8-1&keywords=culture+wars

    I find it offensive that Americans think our way of being, legal system, and political institutions are so weak that it can be taken over by people that make up less than 3% of the population. If you think America is that prone to being destroyed, you should put your money where your mouth is and move out.
     
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    A total lack of facts and evidence in your non-homework done head. :laughing: Get busy.
     
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    If you knew what you are talking about, simple logic would tell you that YES, he's taking a stand against slavery, by taking a stand against Islam, which includes slavery (in the Koran).
     
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    Just to summarize:

    1. Many facets of Sharia have been imposed upon America for 21 years since the Muslim Brohterhood's Explanatory Memorandum.
    2. The Constitution protects us from Islam by Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause, but it os a protection only on paper, since in general, the Supremacy Clause is ignored throughout American society, and as a result, Islamists have been having there way thousands of times for 21 years.
    3. Since Islam is not a religion, Muslims are not protected by the right to worship clause of the Constitution. They are protected in other ways.
    4. Persons- or groups- that break the law are subject to arrest and prosecution- regardless of their religion, however in actual practice, Muslims often get away with illegal activity by claiming (and hiding behind) religious immunity, a claim that many Americans cowardly and foolishly honor.
    5. Ther is no fear mongery about Muslims. This is propaganda spread by Islamists and Islamapologists. This type of con artistry should be identified for what it is, and rejected by patriotic Americans. That can be done by educating themselves from the well-written books (don't forget the footnotes) of protectionists. Here is a good sample:


    1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

    2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer

    3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

    4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

    5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

    6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy

    7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

    8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry
     
  25. Jack Napier

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    Yes. People write hate filled books, to appeal to people that want their own hate validated.

    And this is news?
     
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