Hefner ~ Conservatives War on Sex

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  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who cares what they called themselves?
    They were the liberals of their time, fighting against reactionaries who were the right-wingers of their day.
    It's a fact that all change comes from the liberal, progressive philosophy.

    While not all change is ultimately good, and some progress leads to new problems, it's always going to come from the progressive side of the ideological spectrum.
    If we left it up to the reactionaries, we'd still have slavery and women would have no equal rights.
     
  2. Leffe

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    I'm not that I've ever agreed with you before.

    I agree ono the point that he's making, but he is a terrible spokesperson to deliver the message.
     
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    Oh give it a rest.
     
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    Sweet mother of god! How many threads have there been where people on the Left have tried to explain that:

    Socialism = / = social welfare
    Socialism = / = communism
    Socialism = / = liberalism
    Socialism = / = all definitions which the Right use

    Your post is the very definition of disingenuousness
     
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    Sex should be so private that taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for its results.


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    Why does the Left pretend that they aren't socialists?

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    Ohhhh so this is the weekly proclomation of "right wing war mongering" from the left? Whats next weeks gonna be "conservatives war on sandals"

    You lefties are truly ridiculous. The right has taken no stance that is AGAINST sex. We all just want you irresponsible children on the left to be responsible for SOMETHING. Have sex with as many partners as you want but if you get pregnant then you need to accept responsibility for it. If you dont want to get pregnant then pony up your own $$$$$ for your birth control. Yet again the left shows that they are as responsible as a group of kidnergarteners.

    YOU LEFTIES ARE DIRECTLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS ENTIRE WORLD.
     
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    Could it be the failure rate of socialism?
     
  9. Zosiasmom

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    In undergrad I walked into Journalism 101 and on the board were the words: Consider the source. It resonated with me and I use it every day in different situations. Perhaps, Hef has some things to say in his article that certainly pander to left-brained thinking, but his actions over his lifetime have more than proven what a miserable piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) he really is. How anyone can consider him an authority on women's liberation when he is one of the most prolific producers of women's objectification in the world is beyond me.

    Because of people like Hef women are now judged against a plastic standard of beauty, our value is not in our actions--it's not the Alice Paul's of the world who are fully clothed in his magazine, after all--but in our youth and beauty standard (that of course fits the white, anglo-saxon representation).

    This culture of disposability and consumerism is the seed of what is wrong with us (with the little "u") as we buy into the plastic model product that They (big "T") feed us. Again, I like sex as much as the next person. Biology and evolution certainly account for that. However, Nature did not design women (unlike men)--lest atheists protest I'll call it evolution--to have the sex drive of men. There are very good evolutionary reasons for this. Men, males of any species, drop seed wherever and whenever because they are unburdened by gestation. Women have different hormones, different body structure, etc for good reason...childbirth. When women act like men and engage in shallow acts of sexual intercourse, not only do they run the risk of disease and unintended pregnancy with dip(*)(*)(*)(*)s that you wouldn't want to marry in a million years, but also they decrease their value as a rare commodity and are therefore unappreciated.

    I have a very honest friend that when were were discussing our "list" one time flat out said that he couldn't remember the names of people he slept with, just girlfriends.

    Now, thanks in-part to people like Hef and Terry Richardson, who uses Lindsay Lohan's tragic celetbrity to produce photographs of heroin chic and semi-child porn, we now have women running around singing "Slave 4 u" and posing like a cheap plastic piece of Barbie (*)(*)(*)(*) like Britney and throwing their vayjay around to men who won't remember their name. They will just be "that blonde girl at that one party".

    Yes, that's total progress. I'm so glad that "feminists" spoke for me and earned we women the honor of this type of consumerist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) to spillover into our private lives.
     
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    So instead of addressing the fact that a complete sexist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) whose objectified women and helped to create a standard of beauty that only a finite number of blonde white women can form fit into without plastic surgery now feels that he has the right to define what a healthy attitude on sex and sexuality is because he bangs a few dumb blondes each year we talk about Republican pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*).

    How is that at all on topic? Start a thread on it and I'll be happy to call them dickwads, too.

    Address why you think we should, as women, give this man's opinion any respect whatsoever.
     
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    So instead of addressing the fact that a complete sexist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) whose objectified women and helped to create a standard of beauty that only a finite number of blonde white women can form fit into without plastic surgery now feels that he has the right to define what a healthy attitude on sex and sexuality is because he bangs a few dumb blondes each year we talk about Republican pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*).

    How is that at all on topic? Start a thread on it and I'll be happy to call them dickwads, too.

    Address why you think we should, as women, give this man's opinion any respect whatsoever.
     
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    Everyone is aware that Santorum is a bit...confused perhaps about sex. perhaps his parents were prudes, but somehow they managed to have a child, and it appears santorum has children too. So he knows about sex...maybe to "him" it's dirty, but to label all conservatives this way is disingenuous to say the least. Heffner might possible have "old-timers-disease" and not really understand things very well anymore.
     
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    Everything is "WAR" with the Left. What warmongers!
     
  15. Really People?

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    I would just like to say that I have grown weary of people using the phrase "war on..." to describe every little thing...

    That is all...

    Good day people...
     
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    I think I touched a nearve here the OP orginal question is why the right has a war on sex?

    I think I touched on all the points as the right clearly has issues with sex. I pretty sure it is a well know fact that the right wants to dictate what goes on in the bedrooms of America. Furthermore, we always here about Constitutional Rights. Mr Hefner and Mr. Flint have done more to stand up for the freedom of speech than anyone on the right side of the political spectrum. My post clear was a slanted view about how Republicans and the rightwing talk a big game about sex, but behind closed doors they do some of the most absurd things. I think my post was very much on topic. However, I think yours with the swearing and the finger pointing are clearly off topic. You asked me to source where I got those rules and I did.

    I think it is your right to say the things about Mr. Hefner, he would even defend those rights and in he has. The problem I see with the right is the talk about the issue while holding a bible, however when it comes right down they may be more perverted about the issue than the left ever was. Hefner was dead on in his article, it further exposes the right as moral bible thumpers and in away shows exactly what the rest of the world sees, that the right is all talk .

    Also I have failed to see where you addressed the OP concerns as well, unless you call cussing and throwing a hissy fit addressing something. What I did was called a joke with alot of truth in it learn to laugh you will be better for it.
     
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    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-585049.html

    Interesting article done in 2007. 10 billion a year is spent on porn in the USA. So who is spending all this money on porn, I think we can safely say it is both on the left and the right. The thing about liberals is you don't see them holding up a bible saying it is wrong, on the other hand Republican politicians do it all the time. Lets just be really honest here all Americans look at porn, it is nothing to be ashamed of! Bachmann and Santorum have at one time or another looked at porn, in my estimation those that shout the loudest are usually the ones who indulge in it the most.
     
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    I'm not throwing a hissy fit. My pulse barely raised. I just wonder why its news or worthy reading a reprobate's take on other reprobates. Would you bother responding to Larry Craig talking about how Obama is wishy washy on gay rights?

    I want to hear Naomi Wolf talk about women's rights and sexuality. I want to hear Hillary Clinton's. I want to hear Condoleeza Rice even. I would consider women who have achieved something through character and intellect talking about women's sexuality and women's issues. So my take on the OP is to say to Hef: (*)(*)(*)(*) off you old piece of (*)(*)(*)(*). I neither care about or respect your opinion.

    Mr Flynt at least went to the SCOTUS over political satire and secured the rights for people to say unpopular things and ridicule people in power. What has Hef done?
     
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    I believe you are throwing a hissy fit, and if cusiing is a normal form of communication then I feel sad for you. I highly doubt you are calm.

    As far as what Mr. Hefner has done for free speech he and his duaghter created The Hugh M. Hefner First Amendment Awards. This is to honor people who have made vital contributions to protect free speech. Like I have said in above post Mr. Hefner and Mr. Flint have done more to protect freedom of speech than any one on the right.
     
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    LOL...okay. Sorry, I'm from the streets and work with criminals daily. Also, I'm not prone to censorship when the software behind it covers me up. :) Besides what's profanity but nudity of the mouth?

    They created awards...soooooooooooooooooooooooo not the same as Larry Flynt. VH1 created fashion awards. Big deal. Larry Flynt, I like. He's a go hard, go home kind of guy. Larry Flynt protected free speech and I'd listen to what he has to say on that topic. I won't listen to what he has to say on women's rights.

    Big difference.
     
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    Haha! Hefner!

    I never understood the feminist movement when it came to Playboy. Exploiting women's bodies for money, by a sex fiend grandpa who walks around in a robe all day. You would think the feminists would be all over Hefner for treating women like objects, but the women of the feminist movement have always been silent on this issue.

    The idea that Hefner at 80 is worried about sex is funny. He is basically a sex addict and (*)(*)(*)(*) near a pedophile.

    What is even more amazing is the dingy bimbos who actually think becoming a playmate is a good career move....lol.
     
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    Hefner ~ Conservatives War on Sex


    What silliness. Government not paying fo your birthcontrol, isnt a war on sex. Old fart is probably getting hes Viagra paid for through medicare and now he wants the government to pay for the birth control.
     

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