BREAKING - Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery’

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  1. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

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    LOL... Proving yet again birthers know nothing of our Constitution.

    If he is impeached, he may be removed from office. If that is done, it does not invalidate the time he was in office. That's just another birther fantasy.
     
  2. CoolWalker

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    Wouldn't his paternal grandmother be a good place to start?
     
  3. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    HA HA HA HAAA!!!!

    Now that was funny!!! :)
     
  4. CoolWalker

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    Think again...ah don't bother, it might be too taxing.
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    no that would be pretty idiotic considering he didnt grow up with his dad or around his dads family
     
  6. BullsLawDan

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    The State of Hawaii, the issuing authority, verified it is real. There is no other analysis that can or should be done.

    Here's another example for you - I live in NY. If the director of the Department of Motor Vehicles stands on a stage in Albany and pubically says to the world, with the press listening and recording, that he examined my license, and my drivers' license is real, why would any "expert" examination be needed? What other information could possibly be obtained? Either it's a valid license, or it's a real license with fake information on it, and he's conspiring with me. Those are the only two possibilities.
     
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    Why would I need to "think again"? We have examples from history.

    Do you have any examples of a federal official who was impeached or removed from office, and then everything they did while in office was voided due to their removal? Give me just one.
     
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    No need to patronise...

    actually there is proof #1 and #2 digital images are very easily doctored #2.

    the proof is in anomolies in the digital image and layers that all suggest tampering.

    the fact is, both examples you gave 1. and 2. are possible as well as even more theoretic scenarios as well.

    it doesnt need to be a huge conspiracy, just a surgically implemented one.
     
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    Thanks for the laugh! See post #365.
     
  10. CoolWalker

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    NO, this is a first. No one else had big enough marbles to lie to the American people and smirk about it, then close all records and thumb his nose. Nope, there is no other precedent. Again, this will be a first.
     
  11. Shins

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    Go google "argument from authority" and all your questions will be answered.
     
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    Open the front cover of your US Passport................
     
  13. birddog

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    I would rather see Barry's old passports. 8)
     
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    You're not getting it.

    If the State of Hawaii is in on the conspiracy, Obama's people would not need to "tamper" with a birth certificate, because the State could give him an absolutely authentic one that said whatever he wanted it to say.

    Get it? That's why the birth certificate is not forged. Because they verified it as real, which means he would have no reason to forge it.

    In this case, using the authority of the Department of Health of Hawaii is not a fallacy, because they are the only authority that matters.
     
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    Yours will tell you all you need to know about Barack Obama..

    Do you have one?
     
  16. BullsLawDan

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    This is not a first. Other federal officials have been impeached and removed from office. Regardless of whatever you think he did, the only method to remove him is through impeachment, and impeachment of a federal official does not in any case void the acts they have completed while in office.
     
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    Why would birthers need passports? If they went overseas, they might be confronted with people who aren't all-American, dyed-in-the-wool, flag-wearing Patriots, at which point their heads would explode.
     
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    Ha...from which country!
     
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    The erstwhile controversy over Barack Obama’s birth certificate was - from the beginning - a nonissue. The reason that President Obama has not produced his original birth certificate is because it is a record of vital statistics that is the property of the State of Hawaii, which under state privacy laws is subject to restricted access, and not available to the public. See HRS § 338-18(b). President Obama has disclosed a certified copy that has been authenticated by officials of the State of Hawaii; and which would be admissible under Rule 803(9) of the Federal Rules of Evidence in any action in which such issue was relevant. However, you don’t even get there because the courts lack subject matter jurisdiction for lack of standing of the plaintiffs (appellants) objecting to his eligibility to be President. The lawyers that filed those frivolous lawsuits (and appeals) well knew that they lacked standing to sue, and that such actions would be dismissed; and only did so to generate publicity (not to mention money) for themselves. What is interesting is the number of gullible people that have been taken in by this champerty. Indeed, one would think that P.T. Barnum’s estimate on the birthrate of suckers should be adjusted for inflation.
     
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    Anyone else notice the so-called "dead" issue surrounding Obama and his BC has generated close to 400 posts so far. Where there's real smoke there is real fire. BTW 'smoke' produced by a 'smoke machine' is what Obama and his MSNBC sycophants have been blowing up stupid LIB's butts for over three years and is as real as Obama's photoshopped fake BC.
    This issue is about to go viral and when it does the pressure on Obama to actually produce his long form BC for forensic scientists to determine it's authenticity will have a major effect on his chance of being reelected. No one screws with Sheriff Joe. Not even a bunch of 'Chicagoland' crooks. His integrity is rock solid with millions and millions of voting Americans. Obama and Co. screw with Joe at their political peril. Take that to the bank.
     
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    If he was ineligible to serve in the first place...? Again, this is a first and lawyers will be scrambling hither and yon to come up with the proper arguments for both sides. First however, we have to see if it is blocked by the Administration, which is my first guess, and will serve to make many others ask "why doesn't he just comply"...it's a simple matter to comply unless you are hiding something and as he is hiding just about everything concerning his life, this becomes unprecedented.
     
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    That's why I used the plural "passports!" :handshake:
     
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    So youre saying that if Obama didnt have a certificate, they could just forge him one? and editing one is more trouble?

    maybe so, but it doesnt prove anything.

    someone could also forge him one and hawaii could verify it.

    ill only be convinced when the origonal hard copy is examined and dated by several independent labs.

    until then i remain a skeptic.

    truth is we just dont know for sure.

    Oh and hawaii is not an unbiased authority, nor does _any_ authority making a claim make it automatically 100% true.

    even if hawaii truly believes they have the birth records, it could still have been forged and planted.

    dating and authenticating the origonal certificate independently is the only hope to know for sure.
     
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    Need to drag him kickin & screamin from Office and sent to Gitmo, while he awaits TREASON charges!! See I can be PC...just get rid of the Witch Doctor and his Muslim catering ways!:roll::roll:
     
  25. Really People?

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    A witch doctor huh?

    Also, it warms my heart to see that you know what treason means...

    :rolleyes:
     
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