9th Circuit Court of Appeals Successfully Petitioned to Re-hear Prop. 8 Ruling

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  1. stig42

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    Just like back in the day when a whit and black person could not marry everyone had the same right to marry everyone was not allowed to be in a marriage between a black and white human equally

    Denying marriage between consenting adults who want to marry is perfectly ok so long as the same kind of relationship is banned among people that don’t want it as well

    And that’s why you would agree banning hetero sexual marriage and having gay marriage would be fair to both heterosexuals and homosexuals because everyone has the choice to marry someone of the same gender
     
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    how about we just oppose statutory rape and (*)(*)(*)(*)ing the drugged while not treating homosexuals badly for being gay
     
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    here is where that argument again does not parallel. The color of your skin is quite different vs how you choose to engage in sex.

    2 men walking down the street, which one is gay?

    2 men walking down the street, which one is black?
     
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    so homosexual acts are choice and homosexuality just like heterosexuality where your attracted to one gender is not got it but im not gay

    and likening the same gender is what come naturally for homosexuals that’s what makes them homosexuals and not heterosexuals having homosexual sex
     
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    Wrong again. Both genders can marry. No law says marriage is restricted by gender because its a fact both genders can marry. Homosexuality is a sexual preference. You cannot prove otherwise.
     
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    The one who's holding his boyfriend's hand is usually a sign.

    The one who isn't holding his boyfriend's hand cuz black guys don't "do" gay.......


    (and yes I am black!)
     
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    not quite

    what is an 18 year old girl who has never had sex, is she gay or straight?

    You can't tell for sure until she has sex. That is all that being gay is, it's how you choose to have sex. So all this BS is about making special rules for a small group who engages in sex differently than the majority.
     
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    True but the gender you want to have sex with is like the color of your skin you don’t choose it

    And its still the same principle of fairness ( or same dishonest mockery of the idea ) in either case because everyone can still marry in the same way regardless of how they want to just like we have now in states that ban gay marrage
     
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    I hold my son's hand at times. I guess that makes me gay

    so, you try to crack a joke because unless you are in the bedroom, you have no way of knowing for sure if someone is gay or not.
     
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    Blacks and whites could marry just not one another wanting to marry someone in particular is just a personal preference you cannot prove otherwise
     
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    I think someone re-programmed your humour chip!
     
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    hmmmm

    so, according to your logic, simply thinking of an action actually makes you equivalent to those who perform the action

    sooooooo, I see a nice fresh pie sitting on top of the bakery shelf and i think about running off with it............I guess I'm a thief

    I think about killing the scum gang who just beat the crap out of and killed a military veteran, I guess that makes me a murderer


    if you want to use that form of logic then it must apply to everything

    if my skin is black then i'm black

    If I don't have sex with other men than I am not gay.
     
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    Sure you can. If she only feels a sexual and emotional attraction to males then she is straight. If she only feels a sexual and emotional attraction to females then she is a lesbian. If she feels a sexual and emotional attraction to both sexes then she is probably bisexual.

    Many gay people report having pre-sexual attractions to the same sex from a very young age.

    Why can't you just take them at their word?
     
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    ahh

    false logic with you too. What the heck, is there a handbook or something

    blah blah 1400 "rights"

    how you have sex draws parallels to skin color blah blah and now you can be gay before having sex

    if that's the case, then there are a bunch of thieves and muderers out there who never committed the acts, but thought about it.
     
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    nope. both genders can't marry. only one gender may marry someone of the opposite gender. that is a civil right restricted based on gender.

    you can not prove homosexuality is any more a sexual preference than heterosexuality is.
     
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    When it comes to sex the answer is basically yes. A person who craves intimacy with another does so not because of the physical aspects of particular sex acts. A gay person isn't gay because they like the mechanics of certain sex acts but because certain sex acts help them form a bond with the person who is the object of that attraction.

    A straight person has no desire to be intimate with someone of the same sex.

    So is a 14 year old boy who keeps girlie mags under the bed and regularly masturbates to same not straight, even if he's never had actual sex?

    How about a 14 year old boy who keeps magazines of naked men under his bed and does the same. Is he not gay, even if he's never had sex?

    Having both been and having also raised a 14 year old boy I think I can safely say they have a really strong idea of what they want long before they ever get to have it.
     
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    who they are attracted to of course.
     
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    he's nothing yet, he's whacking off

    but, if you claim him to be gay or straight then by all means we have a lot more thieves and murderers running around the streets because your logic must be the acid test for all behaviors

    If I think of drinking a lot of alcohol I guess I'm an alcoholic
     
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    Nope! I just talk to people and listen to what they tell me.

    I was as sure I was straight as I was sure I was black long before I ever had sex with a girl. And yep when I tested that theory I proved I was right all along.

    If your son is gay you'll find out long before he ever has sex. On the other hand you may never find out at all.

    Except those are criminal acts which cause provable harm to others. Consenting acts between humans aren't.
     
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    Race is a proven genetic trait. Homosexuality is not.

    Sad and tired argument easily defeated.
     
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    So which sex did you "whack off" over when you were 14 and did you go on to form adult commitments with that sex or did you flip and go to the other side?
     
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    Actually they can.

    wrong again. That is restricting sexual preference not gender. Both genders can marry.

    Of course I can.

    There is a biological sexual reaction in all men and women gay or straight to sexual stimuli. The body prepares for procreation. Natural procreation requires heterosexual sex.

    You lose.
     
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    I engage in sex with women which makes me heterosexual

    If i never had sex, I'd be nothing
     
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